Addressing Revisions to Associate of Science Degree in Illinois Community Colleges
Changes are proposed to the Associate of Science (AS) degree model in Illinois Community Colleges to better serve students in science fields. The current model lacks alignment with baccalaureate programs, creating challenges for transfer students. Modifications aim to allow for easier transfer pathways and degree completion while meeting necessary course requirements for successful transition. The existing AS degree structure, which mirrors the Associate of Arts (AA) degree, has shown limitations in meeting the needs of students preparing for further studies in science-related disciplines.
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Approved Revisions to the Associate of Science Degree Brian Durham Deputy Director for Academic Affairs Illinois Community College Board
Revisions to the Associate of Science Degree Changes: Modification of the AS model that allows for the degree to be granted without the completed IAI General Education Core Curriculum completed and shifts six GECC credits to post-transfer. This is a model that has been successfully implemented in the Associate of Fine Arts and Associate of Engineering Sciences degree models. The resulting model would allow students in some science fields to be able to both take the appropriate course sequences to be on track for transfer and also to complete the Associate of Sciences degree. At Issue: The old ICCB AS model does not provide for a degree that serves students in science fields as the first two years of a baccalaureate degree. In fact, the ICCB AS model is identical to the ICCB Associate of Arts Degree model. Untenable situation is created for students preparing to transfer into baccalaureate programs in some science fields. Students are faced with three options: o take all the appropriate courses in math and science so as to be on-track for the baccalaureate program and transfer without having completed the AS degree; o They can complete the AS degree without completing all the appropriate courses in math and science and therefore transfer at a disadvantage to native students and possibly 1 to 2 semesters behind. o They can complete the degree and take all of the appropriate courses and transfer with substantially more credits then will be accepted by the receiving institution (somewhere in the range of 70-75 credits).
The Old Associate Degree in Science The old structure of the AA and AS degrees, as defined by the ICCB, is as follows: Major Field and Electives: 10-27 semester hours Additional College Requirements: 0-9 semester hours Major Field Subtotal: 23-27 semester hours Total: between 60 and 64 semester hours
The Old Associate Degree in Science Continued The old AS degree is identical to the AA degree model. Students follow the same course-taking patterns, no matter what their intended major course of study, and no matter what baccalaureate institution the student wishes to transfer to. Community Colleges across Illinois have reported that students often transfer before finishing the associate s degree and students sometimes report to advisors that the associate degree is not useful to them.
Illinois Community College Board The Illinois system recognizes three specialized degrees (AFA, AAT and AES) that were created to accommodate curricula (fine arts, teaching, and engineering) for which the current AA/AS degree structure does not work. The problem the AFA and AES degrees in particular were designed to address is that native university students spread general education coursework over the entire four years of undergraduate study, in order to include majors-level studies in their first two years. Unfortunately, this problem is not limited to art and engineering; it is well known that the same complication arises with the AS degree in certain other disciplines, such as physics, chemistry and biology.
New Associate Degree in Science The new design associate s degree would allow a student to replicate, as closely as possible, the first two years of undergraduate study in the student s chosen major field of study. In return, students should be able, with reasonable confidence, to achieve junior status upon transfer.
New Associate Degree in Science Continued Students who satisfactorily achieve the above goal in 60-64 community college semester hours deserve an associate s degree. Under the old AS degree structure, however, this is simply impossible for certain major fields of study, such as physics, chemistry and biology. This is because the amount of university majors-required coursework combined with the GECC requirements exceeds the credit totals in the current AS degree model. Many community college students face this choice: either complete the associate s degree and transfer short of junior status in their chosen major, or replicate the first two years of university study and skip the associate s degree. In the first case, the student may well be faced with a fifth year of undergraduate study; in the second, the community college may be unable to award that student a degree at all.
New Associate Degree in Science Continued Given the growing emphasis on improving college graduation rates, the ICCB, in partnership with community colleges, should strive to remove artificial barriers to graduation whenever possible and appropriate. If an existing degree structure increases the likelihood that students will be forced to take more than four years to complete their undergraduate studies, then that structure should be revised, providing academic standards are not sacrificed. Recent discussions with community colleges, related to the content of the AS degree have centered on the fact that, for such majors as mentioned above, the AS degree simply fails to accomplish the purposes suggested herein.
New Associate Degree in Science Continued Modify the General Education Component of the AS Degree without compromising the integrity of the GECC: The revisions are designed to address the present degree structure, which requires a completed IAI GECC package as part of the AS degree. This, in turn, poses a challenge to students pursuing certain science curricula. In particular, it may require the student to postpone some necessary major- level course work until after transfer. This may lead to the student s transferring with the associate s degree, but without having achieved junior standing. As a result the student may be unable to graduate on time. This problem can be solved merely by allowing for the AS degree to be awarded without a completed GECC package, as is done with the AES and AFA degrees. The package could then be completed post-transfer, again as is currently done under the AES and AFA degree models.
New Modifications of Associate Degree in Science Communication: 9 semester hours (includes Composition I and II and Speech) Social and Behavioral Science: 6 semester hours Humanities and Fine Arts: 6 semester hours Life and Physical Sciences: 10-11 semester hours with a lab Mathematics: 6-9 semester hours Major Field and Electives: 10-27 semester hours Additional College Requirements: 0-9 semester hours Total: between 60 and 64 semester hours
New Modifications of Associate Degree in Science Continued The revision establish a redistribution of the general education core across all four years of the baccalaureate degree, which allows the student to take more major-level coursework during the first two years of study at the community college. The old AS degree structure is far from satisfactory; it s only apparent advantage seems to be its simplicity. The new AS described not only offers students a broader set of choices, but also provides smoother pathways to degree completion.
ASSOCIATE IN ARTS DEGREE The Associate in Arts (AA) Degree is designed to complete the lower-division (freshman and sophomore) portion of a Bachelor of Arts (BA) Degree. The Associate in Arts Degree includes the transferable General Education Core and the lower-division major field core courses recommended by the Illinois Articulation Initiative. The Associate in Arts Degree is ideally suited for students desiring a Bachelor of Arts Degree in areas such as liberal arts and sciences, English, psychology, and many other fields. General Education Core 37-41 semester credit hours Communications: 3 courses (9 semester credits*), including a two-course sequence in writing (6 semester credits) and one course (3 semester credits) in oral communication Mathematics: 1 to 2 courses (3 to 6 semester credits) Physical and Life Sciences: 2 courses (7 to 8 semester credits), with one course selected from the life sciences and one course from the physical sciences and including at least one laboratory course Humanities and Fine Arts: 3 courses (9 semester credits), with at least one course selected from humanities and at least one course from the fine arts Social and Behavioral Sciences: 3 courses (9 semester credits), with courses selected from at least two disciplines Additional College AA Degree Requirements 0-9 semester credit hours Major Field & Elective Courses 10-27 semester credit hours TOTAL 60-64 semester credit hours
ASSOCIATE IN SCIENCE DEGREE (Old) The Associate in Science (AS) Degree is designed to complete the lower-division (freshman and sophomore) portion of a Bachelor of Science (BS) Degree. The Associate in Science Degree includes the transferable General Education Core Curriculum and the lower division major field core courses recommended by the Illinois Articulation Initiative. The Associate in Science Degree is ideally suited for students seeking a Bachelor of Science Degree in areas such as biology, business, criminal justice, and many other fields. General Education Core 37-41 semester credit hours Communications: 3 courses (9 semester credits), including a two-course sequence in writing (6 semester credits) and one course (3 semester credits) in oral communication Mathematics: 1 to 2 courses (3 to 6 semester credits) Physical and Life Sciences: 2 courses (7 to 8 semester credits), with one course selected from the life sciences and one course from the physical sciences and including at least one laboratory course Humanities and Fine Arts: 3 courses (9 semester credits), with at least one course selected from humanities and at least one course from the fine arts Social and Behavioral Sciences: 3 courses (9 semester credits), with courses selected from at least two disciplines Additional College AS Degree Requirements 0-9 semester credit hours Major Field & Elective Courses 10-27 semester credit hours TOTAL 60-64 semester credit hours
ASSOCIATE IN SCIENCE DEGREE (New) The Associate in Science (AS) Degree is designed to complete the lower-division (freshman and sophomore) portion of a baccalaureate degree in such disciplines as Chemistry, Biology, Physics, and Mathematics. Baccalaureate science programs are highly structured and require extensive mathematics and science courses at the lower-division level. As a result, the AS Degree does not include the entire General Education Core Curriculum. This means that students who complete the AS Degree may need to complete one additional Humanities or Fine Arts course and one additional Social Science or Behavioral Science course to complete the Illinois Articulation Initiative General Education Core Curriculum as part of the requirements for the baccalaureate degree of the university to which they transfer. The guidelines for the Associate in Science Degree are as follows: General Education Core 31-35 semester credit hours Communications: 3 courses (9 semester credits), including a two-course sequence in writing (6 semester credits) and one course (3 semester credits) in oral communication Mathematics: 2 to 3 courses (6 to 9 semester credits) Physical and Life Sciences: 3 courses (10 to 11 semester credits), with one course selected from the life sciences and one course from the physical sciences and including at least one laboratory course Humanities and Fine Arts: 2 courses (6 semester credits), with one course selected from humanities and one course from the fine arts Social and Behavioral Sciences: 2 courses (6 semester credits), with courses selected from at least two disciplines Additional College AS Degree Requirements 0-9 semester credit hours Major Field & Elective Courses 10-27 semester credit hours TOTAL 60-64 semester credit hours
OLD MODEL NEW MODEL Communication 9 semester hours (includes Composition I and II, and Speech) 9 semester hours (includes Composition I and II, and Speech I) General Education Core Curriculum Social and Behavioral Science 6 semester hours (with courses selected from at least two disciplines) Humanities and Fine Arts 6 semester hours (with one course selected from humanities and one course from the fine arts) Life and Physical Sciences 10-11 semester hours with a lab (with one course selected from the life sciences and one course from the physical sciences and including at least one laboratory course) Mathematics 6-9 semester hours GECC Subtotal: 37-41 semester hours Major Field and Electives 10 27 semester hours 10 27 semester hours Additional College Requirements 0 9 semester hours 0 9 semester hours Total Hours 60 64 semester hours 60 64 semester hours 9 semester hours 9 semester hours 7-8 semester hours 3-6 semester hours
Example of a Cross-Walk Chicago State CHEMISTRY MAJOR - First 4 semesters HCC CHEMISTRY - First 4 semesters - Proposed GECC & Major - Current CHEM 155 MATH 120 ENG 127 CHEM 101 Gen Ed 1 General Chem I College Algebra Composition I Practical Skills In Sci 4 3 3 1 3 CHEM 161 ? MATH 109 ? ENGL 101 Gen Ed 1 Gen Ed 4 IAI-PhyS 4 3 IAI -Com 3 IAI - HFA 3 IAI - HFA PhyS - 1 ? MATH 109 ? Comp 1 HFA -1 HFA -2 14 17 CHEM 156 MATH 121 ENG 128 CHEM M160 Gen Ed 2 General Chem II Col. Alge and Trig Composition II Intro. Chem. Professions 4 3 3 1 3 CHEM 162 ? MATH 128 ? ENGL 102 COMM 101 Gen Ed 2 4 3 3 IAI-Com 3 IAI-Com 3 IAI - SBS CHEM 162 ? MATH 128 ? Comp 2 Speech SBS - 1 14 16 CHEM 250 MATH 141 PHYS 211 Gen Ed 3 Organic Chem I Calculus I Physics I with Calculus 4 4 4 3 CHEM 241 ? MATH 261 ? PHYS 171 ? Gen Ed 3 5 4 IAI - Math 4 IAI - PhyS 3 IAI - SBS CHEM 241 ? MATH - 1 ? Phys - 2 ? SBS - 2 15 16 CHEM 251 MATH 142 PHYS 222 Gen Ed 4 Organic Chem II Calculus II Physics II with Calculus 4 4 4 3 CHEM 242 ? MATH 262 ? PHYS 172 ? Gen Ed 4 5 4 IAI - Math 4 4 IAI - LifeSc CHEM 242 ? MATH - 2 ? PHYS 172 ? Life Science 15 17 HFA - 3 SBS - 3 ? ? Total 58 66 Missing 6hrs Overall Total: 66 72 Courses without articulation: Chem 161 Math 109 Chem 162 Math 128 Chem 241 Math 261 PHYS 171 Chem 242 Math 262 Phys 172
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHE 140 General Chem 4 GECC MAT 145 Calculus 1 4 ENG 101 Composition 3 Comp 1 ENG 101 BSC 197 Molecular Biology 4 15 Comp 2 Gen Ed 1 Speech COM 110 CHE 141 General Chem II 4 MAT 146 Calculus II 4 Math MAT 145 COM 110 Speech 3 For Lang 112 Foreign Language 4 15 Physical Science CHE 140 Life Science Gen Ed 2 CHE 230 Organic Chem I 3 Lab CHE 140 CHE 231 Org Chem Lab 1 PHY 110 Physics for Science 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 3 Gen Ed 1 3 SBS 2 Gen Ed 4 Gen Ed 2 3 14 SBS 3 ? CHE 232 Organic Chem II 3 HFA 1 ? CHE 233 Org Chem Lab 2 HFA 2 ? PHY 111 Physics for Science 4 HFA 3 ? Gen Ed 3 3 Gen Ed 4 3 15 Missing 12 hrs 59 Add'l Wellness 2 61 Total combined 73
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHE 140 General Chem 4 Proposed Gen Ed Component MAT 145 Calculus 1 4 ENG 101 Composition 3 Comp 1 ENG 101 BSC 197 Molecular Biology 4 15 Comp 2 ENG 145 Speech COM 110 CHE 141 General Chem II 4 MAT 146 Calculus II 4 Math 1 MAT 145 COM 110 Speech 3 Math 2 MAT 146 ENG 145 Composition II 3 14 Phys Science CHE 140 CHE 230 Organic Chem I 3 Life Science Gen Ed 1 CHE 231 Org Chem Lab 1 PLS PHY 110 PHY 110 Physics for Science 4 Lab CHE 140 Gen Ed 1 3 Gen Ed 2 3 14 SBS 1 Gen Ed 2 SBS 2 Gen Ed 3 CHE 232 Organic Chem II 3 CHE 233 Org Chem Lab 2 HFA 1 Gen Ed 4 PHY 111 Physics for Science 4 HFA 2 ? Gen Ed 3 3 Gen Ed 4 3 15 Missing 3 hrs 58 Add'l Wellness 2 60 Total combined 63
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHE 140 General Chem 4 GECC MAT 145 Calculus 1 4 ENG 101 Composition 3 Comp 1 ENG 101 For Lan 112 Foreign Language 4 15 Comp 2 Gen Ed 1 Speech COM 110 CHE 141 General Chem II 4 MAT 146 Calculus II 4 Math MAT 145 COM 110 Speech 3 Gen Ed 1 3 14 Physical Science CHE 140 Life Science Gen Ed 2 CHE 230 Organic Chem I 3 Lab CHE 140 CHE 231 Org Chem Lab 1 PHY 110 Physics for Science 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 3 Gen Ed 2 3 SBS 2 Gen Ed 4 Gen Ed 3 3 14 SBS 3 ? CHE 232 Organic Chem II 3 HFA 1 ? CHE 233 Org Chem Lab 2 HFA 2 ? CHE 250 Fund. Of Inorg. Chem 3 HFA 3 ? CHE 251 Fund. Of Inorg. Chem Lab 1 PHY 111 Physics for Science 4 Missing 12 hrs Gen Ed 4 3 16 59 Total combined 71
ISU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHE 140 General Chem 4 Proposed Gen Ed Component MAT 145 Calculus 1 4 ENG 101 Composition 3 Comp 1 ENG 101 For Lan 112 Foreign Language 4 15 Comp 2 Gen Ed 1 Speech COM 110 CHE 141 General Chem II 4 MAT 146 Calculus II 4 Math MAT 145 COM 110 Speech 3 Math 2 MAT 146 Gen Ed 1 3 14 Physical Science CHE 140 CHE 230 Organic Chem I 3 Life Science Gen Ed 2 CHE 231 Org Chem Lab 1 PLS PHY 110 PHY 110 Physics for Science 4 Lab CHE 140 Gen Ed 2 3 Gen Ed 3 3 14 SBS 1 Gen Ed 3 SBS 2 Gen Ed 4 CHE 232 Organic Chem II 3 CHE 233 Org Chem Lab 2 HFA 1 ? CHE 250 Fund. Of Inorg. Chem 3 HFA 2 ? CHE 251 Fund. Of Inorg. Chem Lab 1 PHY 111 Physics for Science 4 Missing 6 hrs Gen Ed 4 3 16 59 Total combined 65
Chicago State Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHEM 155 General Chem 4 GECC MATH 120 College Algebra 3 ENG 127 Composition I 3 Comp 1 ENG 127 CHEM101 Practical Skills in Sci. 1 Comp 2 ENG 128 Gen Ed 1 3 14 Speech Gen Ed 1 CHEM 156 General Chem II 4 Math MAT 141 MATH 121 Col. Algebra and Trig. 3 ENG 128 Composition II 3 CHE M160 Intro. Chem. Professions 1 14 Physical Science CHE 155 Gen Ed 2 3 Life Science Gen Ed 2 Lab CHE 155 CHEM 250 Organic Chem I 4 MATH 141 Calculus I 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 3 PHYS 211 Physics I with Calculus 4 SBS 2 Gen Ed 4 Gen Ed 3 3 15 SBS 3 ? CHEM 251 Organic Chem II 4 HFA 1 ? MATH 142 Calculus II 4 HFA 2 ? PHYS 222 Physics II with Calculus 4 HFA 3 ? Gen Ed 4 3 15 Missing 12 hrs 58 Total combined 70
Chicago State Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHEM 155 General Chem 4 Proposed Gen Ed Component MATH 120 College Algebra 3 ENG 127 Composition I 3 Comp 1 ENG 127 CHEM101 Practical Skills in Sci. 1 Comp 2 ENG 128 Gen Ed 1 3 14 Speech Gen Ed 1 CHEM 156 General Chem II 4 Math MATH 141 MATH 121 Col. Algebra and Trig. 3 Math II MATH 142 ENG 128 Composition II 3 CHE M160 Intro. Chem. Professions 1 14 Physical Science CHE 155 Gen Ed 2 3 Life Science Gen Ed 2 PLS PHYS 211 CHEM 250 Organic Chem I 4 Lab CHE 155 MATH 141 Calculus I 4 PHYS 211 Physics I with Calculus 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 3 Gen Ed 3 3 15 SBS 2 Gen Ed 4 CHEM 251 Organic Chem II 4 HFA 1 ? MATH 142 Calculus II 4 HFA 2 ? PHYS 222 Physics II with Calculus 4 Gen Ed 4 3 15 Missing 6 hrs 58 Total combined 64
EIU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHM 1310G General Chem I 3 GECC CHM 1315G General Chem Lab I 1 ENG 1001G Composition and Lang. 3 Comp 1 ENG 1001G PHY 1351G General Physics I 3 Comp 2 ENG 1002G PHY 1352 G General Physics I Lab 1 Speech CMN 1310G MAT 1441G Calculus and Analytic Geo. I 5 16 CHM 1410 General Chem. II 3 Math MAT 1441G CHM 1415 General Chem. Lab II 1 ENG 1002G Composition and Literature 3 PHY 1361 General Physics II 3 Physical Science CHE 1310G PHY 1362 General Physics II Lab 1 Life Science Gen Ed 1 MAT 2442 Calculus and Analytic Geo II 5 16 Lab CHE 1310G CHM 2440 Organic Chem I 3 CHM 2445 Organic Chem. Lab I 1 SBS 1 Gen Ed 2 CHM 2730 Quantitative Analysis 3 SBS 2 Gen Ed 3 CHM 3500 Intro. To Chem. Research 1 SBS 3 Gen Ed 4 CMN 1310G Intro. To Speech Com. 3 Gen Ed 1 and 2 6 17 CHM 2310 Inorganic Chemistry I 3 HFA 1 ? CHM 2840 Organic Chem. II 3 HFA 2 ? CHM 2845 Organic Chem. Lab II 1 HFA 3 ? Gen Ed 3 and 4 6 13 Missing 9 hrs 62 Total combined 71
EIU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHM 1310G General Chem I 3 Proposed Gen Ed Component CHM 1315G General Chem Lab I 1 ENG 1001G Composition and Lang. 3 Comp 1 ENG 1001G PHY 1351G General Physics I 3 Comp 2 ENG 1002G PHY 1352 G General Physics I Lab 1 Speech CMN 1310G MAT 1441G Calculus and Analytic Geo. I 5 16 CHM 1410 General Chem. II 3 Math MAT 1441G CHM 1415 General Chem. Lab II 1 Math II MAT 2442 ENG 1002G Composition and Literature 3 PHY 1361 General Physics II 3 Physical Science CHE 1310G PHY 1362 General Physics II Lab 1 Life Science Gen Ed 1 MAT 2442 Calculus and Analytic Geo II 5 16 PLS Lab PHYS 1361 CHE 1310G CHM 2440 Organic Chem I 3 CHM 2445 Organic Chem. Lab I 1 CHM 2730 Quantitative Analysis 3 SBS 1 Gen Ed 2 CHM 3500 Intro. To Chem. Research 1 SBS 2 Gen Ed 3 CMN 1310G Intro. To Speech Com. 3 Gen Ed 1 and 2 6 17 HFA 1 HFA 2 Gen Ed 4 ? CHM 2310 Inorganic Chemistry I 3 CHM 2840 Organic Chem. II 3 CHM 2845 Organic Chem. Lab II 1 Missing 3 hrs Gen Ed 3 and 4 6 13 Total combined 65 62
NIU chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHEM 210 General Chem I 3 GECC CHEM 212 General Chem Lab I 1 MATH 229 Calculus I 4 Comp 1 ENG 103 ENGL 103 Rhet. & Comp. I 3 Comp 2 ENG 104 COMS 100 Oral Communication 3 14 Speech COMS 100 CHEM 211 General Chem II 3 Math MATH 229 CHEM 213 General Chem Lab II 1 MATH 230 Calculus II 4 ENGL 104 Rhet. & Comp. II 3 Physical Science CHEM 210 Gen Ed 1 3 14 Life Science Gen Ed 1 Lab CHEM 212 CHEM 336 Organic Chem I I 3 CHEM 338 Organic Chem Lab 2 SBS 1 Gen Ed 2 PHYS 253 Fundamentals of Physics I 4 SBS 2 Gen Ed 3 ENGL 250 Practical Writing 3 SBS 3 Gen Ed 4 Gen Ed 2 3 15 HFA 1 ? CHEM 337 Organic Chem II 3 HFA 2 ? MATH 336 Differential Equations 3 HFA 3 ? PHYS 273 Fundamentals of Physics II 4 Gen Ed 3 3 Missing 9 hrs Gen Ed 4 3 16 59 Total combined 68
NIU chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHEM 210 General Chem I 3 Proposed Gen Ed Component CHEM 212 General Chem Lab I 1 MATH 229 Calculus I 4 Comp 1 ENG 103 ENGL 103 Rhet. & Comp. I 3 Comp 2 ENG 104 COMS 100 Oral Communication 3 14 Speech COMS 100 CHEM 211 General Chem II 3 Math MATH 229 CHEM 213 General Chem Lab II 1 Math II MATH 230 MATH 230 Calculus II 4 ENGL 104 Rhet. & Comp. II 3 Physical Science CHEM 210 Gen Ed 1 3 14 Life Science Gen Ed 1 PLS PHYS 253 CHEM 336 Organic Chem I I 3 Lab CHEM 212 CHEM 338 Organic Chem Lab 2 PHYS 253 Fundamentals of Physics I 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 2 ENGL 250 Practical Writing 3 SBS 2 Gen Ed 3 Gen Ed 2 3 15 HFA 1 Gen Ed 4 CHEM 337 Organic Chem II 3 HFA 2 ? MATH 336 Differential Equations 3 PHYS 273 Fundamentals of Physics II 4 Gen Ed 3 3 Missing 3 hrs Gen Ed 4 3 16 59 Total combined 62
SIUC Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHEM 200/201 General Chem 5 GECC BIOL 200a General Biology 4 MATH 109 Trigonometry 3 Comp 1 ENGL 101 UCOL 101s Scientific Inquiry 3 Comp 2 ENGL 102 CI 199 Library Info 1 16 Speech ? CHEM 210/211 General Chem II 5 Math MAT 150 BIOL 200b General Biology II 4 MATH 150 Calculus I 4 Physical Science CHEM 200 ENGL 101 Composition 3 16 Life Science BIOL 200a Lab CHEM 201 CHEM 330 Quantitative Analysis 5 CHEM 340/341 Organic Chemistry 5 SBS 1 PHIL 105 Math 250 Calculus II 4 SBS 2 ? ENGL 102 Composition II 3 17 SBS 3 ? CHEM 350/351 Biochemistry 5 HFA 1 ? CHEM 442/443 Organic Chem. II 5 HFA 2 ? MATH 221 Linear Algebra 3 HFA 3 ? PHIL 105 Logic 3 16 Missing 18 hrs 65 Total combined 83
SIUC Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHEM 200/201 General Chem 5 Proposed Gen Ed Component BIOL 200a General Biology 4 MATH 109 Trigonometry 3 Comp 1 ENGL 101 UCOL 101s Scientific Inquiry 3 Comp 2 ENGL 102 CI 199 Library Info 1 16 Speech ? CHEM 210/211 General Chem II 5 Math MAT 150 BIOL 200b General Biology II 4 Math II MATH 250 MATH 150 Calculus I 4 ENGL 101 Composition 3 16 Physical Science CHEM 200 Life Science BIOL 200a CHEM 330 Quantitative Analysis 5 PLS BIOL 200b CHEM 340/341 Organic Chemistry 5 Lab CHEM 201 MATH 250 Calculus II 4 ENGL 102 Composition II 3 17 SBS 1 PHIL 105 SBS 2 ? CHEM 350/351 Biochemistry 5 CHEM 442/443 Organic Chem. II 5 HFA 1 ? MATH 221 Linear Algebra 3 HFA 2 ? PHIL 105 Logic 3 16 Missing 12 hrs 65 Total combined 77
SIUE Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHEM 121a General Chemistry 4 GECC CHEM 125a General Chemistry Lab 1 ENG 101 Composition 3 Comp 1 ENG 101 MATH 150 Calculus I 5 Comp 2 ENG 102 SPC 105 Speech Communication 3 16 Speech SPC 105 CHEM 121b General Chem II 4 Math MATH 150 CHEM 125b General Chem. Lab 1 ENG 102 Composition 3 MATH 152 Calculus II 5 Physical Science CHEM 121 PHIL 106 Critical Thinking 3 16 Life Science Gen Ed 1 Lab CHEM 125a CHEM 331/335 Quant. Analytical Chem. 4 CHEM 241a Organic Chemistry 3 SBS 1 PHIL 106 PHYS 151/151L University Physics 5 SBS 2 Gen Ed 2 Gen Ed 1 3 15 SBS 3 ? CHEM 241b/245 Organic Chem II 5 HFA 1 ? STAT 244 Statistics 4 HFA 2 ? PHYS 152/152L University Physics 5 HFA 3 ? Gen Ed 2 3 17 Missing 12 hrs 64 Total combined 76
SIUE Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHEM 121a General Chemistry 4 Proposed Gen Ed Component CHEM 125a General Chemistry Lab 1 ENG 101 Composition 3 Comp 1 ENG 101 MATH 150 Calculus I 5 Comp 2 ENG 102 SPC 105 Speech Communication 3 16 Speech SPC 105 CHEM 121b General Chem II 4 Math MATH 150 CHEM 125b General Chem. Lab 1 Math II MATH 152 ENG 102 Composition 3 MATH 152 Calculus II 5 Physical Science CHEM 121 PHIL 106 Critical Thinking 3 16 Life Science Gen Ed 1 PLS PHYS 151 CHEM 331/335 Quant. Analytical Chem. 4 Lab CHEM 125a CHEM 241a Organic Chemistry 3 PHYS 151/151L University Physics 5 SBS 1 PHIL 106 Gen Ed 1 3 15 SBS 2 Gen Ed 2 CHEM 241b/245 Organic Chem II 5 HFA 1 ? STAT 244 Statistics 4 HFA 2 ? PHYS 152/152L University Physics 5 Gen Ed 2 3 17 Missing 6 hrs 64 Total combined 70
UIUC Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHEM 202/203 Accelerated Chemistry I 4 GECC MATH 220 Calculus 4 RHET 105 Principles of Comp. 4 Comp 1 RHET 105 Gen Ed 1 3 15 Comp 2 Gen Ed 1 Speech Gen Ed 2 CHEM 204 Accelerated Chemistry II 5 Math MATH 220 MATH 231 Calculus II 3 PHYS 211 University Physics I 4 Gen Ed 2 3 Physical Science CHE 202 Gen Ed 3 3 18 Life Science Gen Ed 3 Lab CHE 203 CHEM 236/237 Fund. Organic Chemistry I 6 MATH 241 Calculus III 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 4 PHYS 212 University Physics II 4 SBS 2 ? Gen Ed 4 3 17 SBS 3 ? CHEM 436 Organic Chem II 3 HFA 1 ? MATH 285 Intro. To Differential Eq. 3 HFA 2 ? PHYS 214 University Physics III 2 HFA 3 ? Electives 9 17 Missing 15 hrs 67 Total combined 82 The electives may include general education courses or technical elective courses.
UIUC Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHEM 202/203 Accelerated Chemistry I 4 Proposed Gen Ed Component MATH 220 Calculus 4 RHET 105 Principles of Comp. 4 Comp 1 RHET 105 Gen Ed 1 3 15 Comp 2 Gen Ed 1 Speech Gen Ed 2 CHEM 204 Accelerated Chemistry II 5 Math MATH 220 MATH 231 Calculus II 3 Math II MATH 231 PHYS 211 University Physics I 4 Gen Ed 2 3 Physical Science CHE 202 Gen Ed 3 3 18 Life Science Gen Ed 3 PLS PHYS 211 CHEM 236/237 Fund. Organic Chemistry I 6 Lab CHE 203 MATH 241 Calculus III 4 PHYS 212 University Physics II 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 4 Gen Ed 4 3 17 SBS 2 ? CHEM 436 Organic Chem II 3 HFA 1 ? MATH 285 Intro. To Differential Eq. 3 HFA 2 ? PHYS 214 University Physics III 2 Electives 9 17 Missing 9 hrs 67 Total combined 76 The electives may include general education courses or technical elective courses.
UIS Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHE 141 Principles of Chemistry I 4 GECC MAT 115 Calculus I 4 ENG 101 Composition I 4 Comp 1 ENG 101 Gen Ed 1 3 15 Comp 2 ENG 102 Speech COM 101 CHE 142 Principles of Chemistry II 4 Math MAT 115 MATH 116 Calculus II 4 ENG 102 Composition II 4 Gen Ed 2 3 15 Physical Science CHE 141 Life Science BIO 141 Lab CHE 141 CHE 267/268 Organic Chem I 4 BIO 141 Unity of Living Org. 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 1 ASP 201 Physics I 4 SBS 2 Gen Ed 2 Gen Ed 3 3 15 SBS 3 Gen Ed 3 CHE 269/271 Organic Chem II 4 HFA 1 Gen Ed 4 ASP 202 Physics II 4 HFA 2 ? COM 112 Oral Communications 3 HFA 3 ? Gen Ed 4 3 14 Missing 6 hrs 59 Total combined 65
UIS Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHE 141 Principles of Chemistry I 4 Proposed Gen Ed Component MAT 115 Calculus I 4 ENG 101 Composition I 4 Comp 1 ENG 101 Gen Ed 1 3 15 Comp 2 ENG 102 Speech COM 101 CHE 142 Principles of Chemistry II 4 Math MAT 115 MAT 116 Calculus II 4 Math II MAT 116 ENG 102 Composition II 4 Gen Ed 2 3 15 Physical Science CHE 141 Life Science BIO 141 PLS ASP 201 CHE 267/268 Organic Chem I 4 Lab CHE 141 BIO 141 Unity of Living Org. 4 ASP 201 Physics I 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 1 Gen Ed 3 3 15 SBS 2 Gen Ed 2 CHE 269/271 Organic Chem II 4 HFA 1 Gen Ed 3 ASP 202 Physics II 4 HFA 2 Gen Ed 4 COM 112 Oral Communications 3 Gen Ed 4 3 14 Missing 0 hrs 59 Total combined 59
WIU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters CHEM 201 Inorganic Chemistry I 4 GECC MATH 133 Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. I 4 ENG 180 College Writing I 4 Comp 1 ENG 180 Human Well Being 1-3 Comp 2 ENG 280 Gen Ed 1 3 16-18 Speech Gen Ed 1 CHEM 202 Inorganic Chemistry II 4 Math MAT 133 MATH 134 Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. II 4 Human Well Being 1-3 Gen Ed 2 3 Physical Science CHE 201 Gen Ed 3 3 15-17 Life Science Gen Ed 2 Lab CHE 201 CHEM 331 Organic Chemistry I Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. III 5 MATH 231 3 SBS 1 Gen Ed 3 PHYS 211 University Physics I 4 SBS 2 Gen Ed 4 Gen Ed 4 3 15 SBS 3 ? CHEM 332 Organic Chemistry II 4 HFA 1 ? ENG 280 College Writing II 3 HFA 2 ? PHYS 213 University Physics III 4 HFA 3 ? Minor elective 3 14 Missing 12 hrs 60-64 Total combined 72-76
WIU Chemistry Major - first 4 semesters PROPOSED CHEM 201 Inorganic Chemistry I 4 Proposed Gen Ed Component MATH 133 Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. I 4 ENG 180 College Writing I 4 Comp 1 ENG 180 Human Well Being 1-3 Comp 2 ENG 280 Gen Ed 1 3 16-18 Speech Gen Ed 1 CHEM 202 Inorganic Chemistry II 4 Math MAT 133 MATH 134 Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. II 4 Math II MATH 134 Human Well Being 1-3 Gen Ed 2 3 Physical Science CHE 201 Gen Ed 3 3 15-17 Life Science Gen Ed 2 PLS PHYS 211 CHEM 331 Organic Chemistry I Calculus w/ Analytic Geo. III 5 Lab CHE 201 MATH 231 3 PHYS 211 University Physics I 4 SBS 1 Gen Ed 3 Gen Ed 4 3 15 SBS 2 Gen Ed 4 CHEM 332 Organic Chemistry II 4 HFA 1 ? ENG 280 College Writing II 3 HFA 2 ? PHYS 213 University Physics III 4 Minor elective 3 14 Missing 6 hrs 60-64 Total combined 66-70
Comparison of Credit Hours: Current and Proposed AS Model AS Model Chicago State EIU 62 71 ISU 59 71 NIU 59 68 SIUC 65 83 SIUE 64 76 UIUC 67 82 UIS 59 65 WIU 60-64 72-76 School 1st2 years Current Gap Proposed AS Model 64 Gap 58 70 12 6 9 12 9 18 12 15 6 12 65 65 62 77 70 76 59 66-70 3 6 3 12 6 9 0 6
Frequently Asked Questions Proposed revisions would benefit only those students whose goals include a baccalaureate degree in majors related to biology, chemistry, or physics, which is a much smaller population in comparison to the large number of students served by the current AS degree. The intent is to provide students with a meaningful first two years of a baccalaureate program. The primary focus of any program of study should be to prepare the student for transfer. Therefore, if the student is best served by a program that fits the AS model, they should be pursuing the AS. If they are best served by pursuing the AA model, they should be pursing the AA model. There's no magic percentage that should be in one or the other model.
Frequently Asked Questions The majority of students complete an AS or an AA degree. Very few complete the state s specialized degrees (e.g. AFA, AES and AAT). The revisions to the newly proposed AS degree may create yet another specialized degree that perhaps few students will wish to complete. The AS is not a specialized degree. Rather, it is one of the two standard degrees most often used in preparation for transfer to a baccalaureate program. The proposed revisions align the AS model more closely with the course-taking pattern of native students in a BS degree.
Frequently Asked Questions The revised degree would neither fall under the Compact Agreement nor include the entire IAI GECC. This is correct. Students who pursue the new AS degree may be required by the baccalaureate granting institution to complete the IAI GECC package after they transfer. This change will need to be thoroughly communicated to students as it is a dramatic shift. However, the reality is that native students at baccalaureate institutions routinely spread their general education coursework over all four years of their studies.
Frequently Asked Questions A revised AS degree would dictate that the AA degree become the one size fits all for all of the other BS and BA degree related majors (business, elementary education, early childhood education, psychology, sociology, geology, English, math, economics, philosophy, history, special education ..). Since the current AA and AS models are identical and are usually only distinguished at the institutional level by one course, it is clear that the choice between the AA and AS for a student preparing to transfer has little to do with the type of degree offered in their major field of study by the baccalaureate institution. Students will follow the plan of study that best prepares them for transfer. The choice of an AA or AS would depend upon which degree best fits their plan of study. It is also not necessary that a student intending to pursue a BS degree complete an AS degree. Everything depends on what courses they've taken, not what type of degree they have. Also, it is not clear why such fields of study as business, education, psychology, sociology, etc. would be associated with a science degree any more than they would be with an art degree. The absolute key is the courses the student takes in preparation for transfer.
