Wisconsin Attorney General Brad D. Schimel's Open Government Summit Overview

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Explore the role of Wisconsin's Attorney General in promoting open government through public records law interpretation, formal opinions, and enforcement actions. Learn about the history of sunshine laws in Wisconsin and the responsibilities of the Public Records Board in managing state records.


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  1. Wisconsin Attorney General Brad D. Schimels Open Government Summit JULY 29, 2015 MADISON CONCOURSE HOTEL

  2. An Overview of Wisconsins Public Records Law ANNE M. BENSKY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

  3. The Attorney General's special role in open government Public Records Interpretation by attorney general. Any person may request advice from the attorney general as to the applicability of this subchapter under any circumstances. The attorney general may respond to such a request. Wis. Stat. 19.39 Open Meetings Interpretation by attorney general. Any person may request advice from the attorney general as to the applicability of this subchapter under any circumstances. Wis. Stat. 19.98

  4. The Attorney General's special role in open government Formal & Informal Opinions, letters and memoranda Direct public interaction PROM handled 281 matters since January 1, 2015 from private citizens, governmental officials, state and local agencies, the press, students, criminal defendants, inmates Enforcement actions Amicus briefs Defending state agencies (including DOJ), the legislature and the Governor's office (15 20 cases per year) About 10 AAGs with special expertise in open government

  5. History of the PRL and sunshine laws in Wisconsin pre-dating Wis. Stat. s. 19.31 et seq County of Jefferson V. Besley, 5 Wis. 134 (1865) Wis. Stat. 19.21 Wis. Stat. 19.31 et seq., 1981 Senate Bill 250, Chapter 335, Laws of 1981, published 1982 See 1983 Marquette Law Review article: The Wisconsin Public Records Law, by Linda de la Mora, Volume 67, Issue I, Fall 1983, Article 4, page 65.

  6. The Public Records Law What it is: Provides access to records that exist at the time the request is made What it is not: The public records law is not a general records retention statute: See Wis. Stat. 16.61 See Public Records Board Reference Materials

  7. The Public Records Board is responsible for the preservation of important State records, the orderly disposition of State Records that have become obsolete and cost-effective management of records by State agencies. The Public Records Board has oversight and accountability for the State's Records Program. The Board conducts its work through collaboration with Wisconsin governmental entities to assist in their compliance with records retention and preservation requirements. Statutory authority may be found at Wis. Stat. Sec. 16.61. Website: http://publicrecordsboard.wi.gov/ The Document Library contains several records retention schedules and Record Retention/Disposition Authorization forms, as well as training materials, other reference materials, and a list of state agency records officers.

  8. Policy Declaration representative government informed electorate all persons entitled greatest possible information regarding the affairs of government official acts of those officers and employees an integral part of the routine duties of officers and employees presumption of complete public access only in an exceptional case may access be denied

  9. Cornerstone of Wisconsin's sunshine law ... any requester has a right to inspect any record. Wis. Stat. 19.35(1)(a) Wis. Stat. 19.32(3) defines requester Very broad: anyone, inside or outside of the state, who is not a committed or incarcerated persons asking for records about themselves or their children

  10. Except as otherwise provided by law..."

  11. Cornerstone of Wisconsin's sunshine law: any requester has a right to inspect any record. Wis. Stat. 19.35(1)(a) Wis. Stat. 19.32(2) defines record Complex definition that sees more litigation ("draft"; "note"; "purely personal ) In digital age, what does "being kept by an authority" mean? Internet availability Certain employees with special access to information in the custody of other public or private entities What information is "available for inspection at a public library" given that public libraries almost always have internet access?

  12. Except as otherwise provided by law..." Exceptions within the PRL: Wis. Stat. 19.36 Wis. Stat. 19.35(1)(am)1-3 Other State and Federal Statutes Some are more straight-forward than others: Compare Wis. Stat. 146.82 (confidentiality of patient health care records & HIPAA with the Drivers Privacy Protection Act (DPPA)) See: Wisconsin Public Records and Open Meetings Handbook, Appendix D for comprehensive list of Wisconsin statutory exceptions.

  13. "Except as otherwise provided by law..." Request to enjoin release by Records Subject Wis. Stat. 19.356 litigation Typically, Court conducts de novo balancing test based on in camera review of records

  14. Public policy balancing test What it is: What is best for the public It does not balance purely private interests against the public interest but, sometimes private interests align with the public interest Employee disciplinary records Agreements/ MOUs to receive confidential information for public purposes Federal/state law enforcement sharing Trade secrets/proprietary business information

  15. Public policy balancing test What facts should Authorities and Courts consider? (Ardell v. Milwaukee Bd. of Sch. Dirs., 2014 WI App 66) Who the requester is What will the records be used for Where the records will end up Why is the requester asking for the records How the requester will use the records Personal safety concerns of the records subject(s) Privacy concerns in the digital age

  16. How to provide greater access and who pays for it Fees, location, legal review, redaction Responding to public records requests should not disrupt other essential governmental functions Creation of on-line repositories for public information available worldwide, 24/7 Who bears the cost of creating and maintaining Possible solutions to handle narrow requests that return massive amounts of records: email; data

  17. Public Trust Doctrine for information We are all stakeholders Public Interest Authorities Requesters

  18. Protecting Public Safety-Policing in the 21st Century M O D E R A T O R B R A D D . S C H I M E L - W I S C O N S I N A T T O R N E Y G E N E R A L P A N E L I S T S J A M E S A . F R I E D M A N A T T O R N E Y , G O D F R E Y & K A H N , S . C . S A M U E L C . H A L L J R . A T T O R N E Y , C R I V E L L O C A R L S O N S . C . J I L L K A R O F S K Y A D M I N I S T R A T O R , W I S C O N S I N D O J - O F F I C E O F C R I M E V I C T I M S E R V I C E S J E F F M A Y E R S P R E S I D E N T , W I S P O L I T I C S . C O M

  19. Public Records in the Modern Era M O D E R A T O R A N D R E W C . C O O K - D E P U T Y A T T O R N E Y G E N E R A L P A N E L I S T S R O G E R A L L E N - A S S I S T A N T C I T Y A T T O R N E Y , C I T Y O F M A D I S O N R O B E R T J . D R E P S A T T O R N E Y , G O D F R E Y & K A H N , S . C . R I C K E S E N B E R G P R E S I D E N T , W I S C O N S I N I N S T I T U T E F O R L A W A N D L I B E R T Y R A Y M O N D P . T A F F O R A V I C E C H A N C E L L O R F O R L E G A L A F F A I R S , U W - M A D I S O N

  20. The Cost of Open Government M O D E R A T O R D E L A N I E B R E U E R - A S S I S T A N T D E P U T Y A T T O R N E Y G E N E R A L P A N E L I S T S J A M I E A U L I K - C O U N T Y C L E R K , M A N I T O W O C C O U N T Y ; L E G I S L A T I V E C O M M I T T E E C H A I R M A N , W I S C O N S I N C O U N T Y C L E R K S A S S O C I A T I O N S T A C I M . H O F F M A N - R E G I S T E R O F D E E D S , J E F F E R S O N C O U N T Y ; P R E S I D E N T , W I S C O N S I N R E G I S T E R O F D E E D S A S S O C I A T I O N B I L L L E U D E R S - P R E S I D E N T , F R E E D O M O F I N F O R M A T I O N C O U N C I L

  21. The Cost of Open Government CONSIDERATIONS FOR RECORDS CUSTODIANS IN SMALL OFFICES JAMIE J. AULIK MANITOWOC COUNTY CLERK

  22. Local units of government take pride in being open Local government officials work in the community, and directly with local media and the public Local elected officials (a.k.a. records custodians) understand who pays salaries and bills, and are directly accountable to constituents We want people to be involved in their local government

  23. Public records requests are a balancing act for local offices Balancing Act #1: Public's right to know vs. protecting the integrity of the record Balancing Act #2: Public's right to know vs. confidentiality Balancing Act #3: Public's (at large) right to know vs. customer Service responsibility to the residents the office serves

  24. Case Study Ballot Audits Request was to audit electronically tabulated ballots, and involved a group traveling to a number of county clerk offices around the state in mid to late 2012 Public records law, of course, provides access to inspect records Government Accountability Board provided guidance that no one other than election officials were authorized to touch ballots Election officials and staff spent days flipping over ballots

  25. Racine County experience with ballot audits Staff spent 57.25 labor hours in room while the audit took place. Figure does not include time spent assembling, organizing, moving materials, scheduling, and other preparations required to fulfill the request The audit was stretched over a 10 week period, because they had to arrange times when the group had enough counters, and when the county had enough coverage to take care of the workload in the office At an average cost of $31.25/hour, the county spent $1,789.06 on staff time alone. Again, that figure does not include preparation time and other supplies related to the audit

  26. Other areas requiring clarification Does an electronic version of a record necessarily follow the same disclosure laws as the record itself? Is the copy fee of a scanned and emailed document the same as a hardcopy version of the document? What is the responsibility of an authority when the requestor requires uploading documents?

  27. The Cost of Open Government STACI M. HOFFMAN PRESIDENT, WISCONSIN REGISTER OF DEEDS ASSOCIATION

  28. Contrary to Popular Belief, our goals include: Transparent government Assistance to our constituents Fulfilling requests in a timely manner Helpful and not a hindrance to open government Fiscally responsible to the taxpayers

  29. Tightened Budgets and Limited Resources During these economic times, we have been asked to reduce staff either through layoffs or attrition Limited staff to do daily department functions and statutory obligations Open records requests have created new positions, overtime and comp time What should come first open records requests or daily duties?

  30. Costs There is a real cost to providing open records Staff time Additional IT Fees Added Hardware and Software requirements Additional allocated costs overhead costs Additional storage requirements Risk Management costs Increased records retention policy fees Documents, emails, Facebook, Twitter, social media, dash cams, body cams Additional server needed for email storage $15,000 plus $2,500 annual maintenance

  31. Redaction We have federal and state laws that require redaction from public record HIPAA health issues, medicines Juvenile Information Social Security Numbers Financial Account Information Informant Identification Names, addresses, telephone numbers, email address, voice recordings, hand writing samples

  32. Example Sheriffs Department Records Request 20 Year Old Death One Court Report consists of 778 pages 38 juveniles were involved redaction required Medical conditions and medications redacted 63 video and audio to be redacted Dispatch records to be reviewed Software available for part of the request Mostly manual A month has been spent on this case so far, there are many months to go There are hundreds of other cases in the mean time

  33. Average Monthly Work Load Standard Accident Reports Contact History Reports Family Court Co. District Attorney Reports Avg. Request (non-accident) Complex Reports Medical Records Challenging Request Total monthly requests 77 80 2 15 20 55 4 1 254

  34. Actual Costs PLUS Full time Open Records Clerk-$63,800/yr. Part time Open Records Clerk-$31,900/yr. Temporary Open Records Clerk-$5,000/yr. That s $100,700 in staff time alone! IT Allocation- $1,100/unit Indirect Costs-share of $922,000 Hardware CD DVD Burners - $250 Computers/monitor $950/ea Office Equipment - $1,000 Redaction Software - $3,100 Annual Maint. Fee $620

  35. Register of Deeds Concerns Data Harvesting Redaction of Personal Information Statutory Fees Uniform Fees Property Fraud Keeping up with Technology Software $160,000 Annual Maintenance $19,000/yr

  36. Reimbursement? Should the taxpayer pay for requests through an increased tax levy? Should the requester pay the actual costs? How do you calculate the actual costs? Should payment be made up front? How can we determine the amount of time Should there be standardized fees? Should there be standardized formats? Should the statutory fees be updated? Do reports have the same .25/page fee?

  37. The Cost of Open Government M O D E R A T O R D E L A N I E B R E U E R - A S S I S T A N T D E P U T Y A T T O R N E Y G E N E R A L P A N E L I S T S J A M I E A U L I K - C O U N T Y C L E R K , M A N I T O W O C C O U N T Y ; L E G I S L A T I V E C O M M I T T E E C H A I R M A N , W I S C O N S I N C O U N T Y C L E R K S A S S O C I A T I O N S T A C I M . H O F F M A N - R E G I S T E R O F D E E D S , J E F F E R S O N C O U N T Y ; P R E S I D E N T , W I S C O N S I N R E G I S T E R O F D E E D S A S S O C I A T I O N B I L L L E U D E R S - P R E S I D E N T , F R E E D O M O F I N F O R M A T I O N C O U N C I L

  38. Wisconsin Department of Justice Office of the Attorney General Open Government Summit July 29, 2015 Wisconsin s Open Meeting Law Overview and Discussion Technological Advances and the Law Some Examples from the PSC

  39. Notice Requirements, Wis. Stat. 19.84 41

  40. Notice Requirements, Wis. Stat. 19.84

  41. Notice Requirements, Wis. Stat. 19.84 43

  42. Public E-Agenda 44

  43. Public E-Agenda 45

  44. Accessibility and Public Participation 46

  45. Accessibility and Public Participation

  46. Wisconsins Open Meetings Law-Overview and Discussion M O D E R A T O R D A V I D V . M E A N Y - A D M I N I S T R A T O R , W I S C O N S I N D O J - D I V I S I O N O F L E G A L S E R V I C E S P A N E L I S T S C H R I S H A R D I E F O R M E R E X E C U T I V E E D I T O R , L A C R O S S E T R I B U N E ; P R E S I D E N T , W I S C O N S I N N E W S P A P E R A S S O C I A T I O N A N D R E W T . P H I L L I P S A T T O R N E Y , V O N B R I E S E N & R O P E R , S . C . C Y N T H I A S M I T H G E N E R A L C O U N S E L , W I S C O N S I N P U B L I C S E R V I C E C O M M I S S I O N

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