Overcoming Resistance to Friends of Scouting Presentation

 
It is possible that you may encounter resistance by the unit
leader to schedule a Friends of Scouting presentation in the
first place. You must do whatever you can to allow the unit
members the opportunity to make the decision for
themselves on how they can support Friends of Scouting.
Here are some helpful hints to overcome that leader's
objections or addressing their questions:
 
Be knowledgeable of Council highlights in 2020 and what
Family FOS supports.
Ask for no more than a 5-8-minute presentation and 
keep
your promise.
Explain the need to create awareness and educate Scout
families about the bigger picture of what Scouting is all
about and emphasize the 
local
 investment.
 
2
 
Question:
  
Will my donations be used to compensate
victims or 
    
cover legal fees related to the
Chapter 11 filing?
 
Response:
  
Your restricted donations can only be used for
their 
     
designated purposes. We are legally
prepared to enforce 
    
and defend all of your
restrictions to ensure donations – 
    
past, present and
future – are used as you intended.
 
3
 
Question:
  
Will my donations be used to compensate
victims or 
    
cover legal fees related to the
Chapter 11 filing?
 
Response:
  
Your restricted donations can only be used for
their 
     
designated purposes. We are legally
prepared to enforce 
    
and defend all of your
restrictions to ensure donations – 
    
past, present and
future – are used as you intended. In 
    
addition,
Friends of Scouting (FOS) donations go 
     
straight to
supporting Scouting in our communities 
     
today.
These donations are critical to maintaining our
 
operations and are being used to do so in real time.
 
4
 
Question:
  
 What impact will this process have on local
councils?
 
Response:
  
 In short, the Chapter 11 filings don’t directly
impact the 
    
operations of local councils in any way.
It’s important to 
    
remember that Scouting is
continuing and that local 
     
councils have not filed
for bankruptcy. Local councils are 
    
legally separate,
distinct and financially independent 
     
from the
national organization.
 
5
 
Question:
  
 Are local council assets secure?
 
Response:
  
 Council camps, endowments, local fundraising
dollars, 
    
and other property are separate and
distinct from the 
    
national organization. They will
continue to support 
     
programming in the local
community. The decision of 
    
whether a local council
financially contributes to a 
     
Victims
Compensation Trust will be made by each local
 
council’s executive board based on the best interest of
  
Scouting in the communities it serves.
 
6
 
Objection:
  
Council relies on Scout families for
     
donations too much. We already do the
      
popcorn.
 
Response:
  
The popcorn sale supports the unit as well as the
     
programs of the NEIC. The unit profit ratio
from this 
     
product sale is one of the best in the
country, and an 
    
equal portion of the proceeds goes
to NEIC.  The 
     
majority of the profit stays with the
unit. Family Friends 
    
of Scouting 
 
is an opportunity
for parents who are willing 
    
and able to make a
personal financial contribution 
     
directly in
support of NEIC programs.
 
7
 
Objection:
  
Council started collecting $5 program fee is that
not 
    
enough?
 
Response:
  
The bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America allow
for local 
    
councils to charge as much as $12.00
per member to 
    
offset insurance fees.
Locally, our current cost is 
      
$9.45 per youth
and adult.  We view Scouting as a 
     
partnership
between the Scouts, families, units, and the 
    
Council.
We all work together to prepare young people 
    
to
make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes.
 
Because of this, we will continue to raise the funds
  
necessary to subsidize a portion of the insurance
   
expenses, but we will need your help and
understanding 
    
to meet the projected increase.
 
8
 
Objection:
  
We pay $65 in dues to the Pack/Troop/Crew
each 
     
year. Why should we give more? Doesn’t
the NEIC 
    
use that money?
 
Response:
  
Part of the dues you paid to the unit are used within the
unit 
    
itself for 
 
programs, badges, and books. $65 (plus
$12 if your 
    
child gets Boy’s Life)  $60 goes straight to the
national 
     
organization to pay for membership and
processing fees. Five 
    
dollars of this fee stays with the
Northeast Illinois Council to 
    
offset insurance cost. The
Family Friends of Scouting campaign 
    
gives families the
opportunity to support the NEIC, who in turn 
    
support all
youth in the council.
 
9
 
Objection:
  
Council doesn't do anything for us we have to
pay 
    
for the advancement awards and Cub Scout
Day 
     
Camp.
 
Response:
  
Each scout helps pay for their advancement awards
through 
    
dues and the unit budget plan. Our fees for day
camp and all 
    
camps are based on what is necessary to
cover program 
     
materials, patches, t-shirts, and
anything else the youth 
     
receive. The NEIC runs these
programs at a much lower cost 
    
than comparable youth
camps in Lake and Cook county. The 
    
NEIC does provide a
number of services to benefit the unit, 
    
including a trained
professional staff, program guidance, and 
    
support
through roundtables, Training Days, training courses,
 
Camp maintenance, unit membership administration, and
   
advancement record keeping. Additionally, NEIC pays for
    
liability insurance 
 
for every registered adult volunteer
.
 
10
10
 
Objection:
  
I give my time as a leader.
 
Response:
  
We appreciate your service as a leader. That is the
     
inherent strength of Scouting: a quality
program made 
    
possible by many dedicated
volunteers. Those that are 
    
the closest and most
active in the program best 
      
understand the
benefits, and understand the value 
     
of supporting
Scouting financially as well.
 
11
11
 
Objection:
  
It's expensive to send my scout to summer
camp, 
     
and the sleeping bag and pack and all
the other 
     
equipment they need isn't cheap.
 
Response:
  
The fee a Scout pays for summer camp only covers part
     
of the cost (essentially the cost of their meals,
expendable 
     
program materials, and the summer camp
staff). The other 
     
costs, like building insurance,
ongoing maintenance, utilities, 
    
and the ranger's salary are
included in the Council's operating 
    
budget. Without Friends
of Scouting, the cost of camp would 
    
have to be much
higher.
 
    
While sending your scout to summer camp does require
a 
     
commitment of funds, it's still the best deal around
when you 
    
consider what they’re learning (and when you
compare it to 
    
other camps in the area).
 
12
12
 
Objection:
  
If the Council didn't have all those high-priced
     
executives, they wouldn't need so much
money!
 
Response:
  
Scouting is just like any other organization--we need to
have 
    
paid professional leaders, too. We run a very lean
staff: we 
     
have 7 paid field staff members serving over
14,000 members. 
    
Our 
 
district executives work closely
with the members of the 
    
district committee and
commissioner staff coordinating their 
    
efforts in serving
your 
 
Unit. By working through these 
      
volunteers,
they are able to multiply their effectiveness. They 
    
spend
a lot of time contacting community leaders, explaining 
    
the
Scouting 
 
program, working one on one with units, and
 
enlisting volunteer support. Your District Executive is on call if
   
you need assistance or guidance and is just a phone call
away.
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Overcoming objections when scheduling a Friends of Scouting presentation is crucial to provide unit members with the opportunity to support scouting initiatives. Addressing concerns about donation usage, impact on local councils, and security of assets can help facilitate understanding and garner support. By emphasizing the importance of community investment and awareness, and assuring restricted donations are used appropriately, you can navigate resistance effectively.


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  1. It is possible that you may encounter resistance by the unit leader to schedule a Friends of Scouting presentation in the first place. You must do whatever you can to allow the unit members the opportunity to make the decision for themselves on how they can support Friends of Scouting. Here are some helpful hints to overcome that leader's objections or addressing their questions: Be knowledgeable of Council highlights in 2020 and what Family FOS supports. Ask for no more than a 5-8-minute presentation and keep your promise. Explain the need to create awareness and educate Scout families about the bigger picture of what Scouting is all about and emphasize the local investment.

  2. Question: victims or Chapter 11 filing? Will my donations be used to compensate cover legal fees related to the Response: their prepared to enforce restrictions to ensure donations future are used as you intended. Your restricted donations can only be used for designated purposes. We are legally and defend all of your past, present and 2

  3. Question: victims or Chapter 11 filing? Will my donations be used to compensate cover legal fees related to the Response: their prepared to enforce restrictions to ensure donations future are used as you intended. In Friends of Scouting (FOS) donations go supporting Scouting in our communities These donations are critical to maintaining our operations and are being used to do so in real time. Your restricted donations can only be used for designated purposes. We are legally and defend all of your past, present and addition, straight to today. 3

  4. Question: councils? What impact will this process have on local Response: impact the It s important to continuing and that local for bankruptcy. Local councils are distinct and financially independent national organization. In short, the Chapter 11 filings don t directly operations of local councils in any way. remember that Scouting is councils have not filed legally separate, from the 4

  5. Question: Are local council assets secure? Response: dollars, distinct from the continue to support community. The decision of financially contributes to a Compensation Trust will be made by each local council s executive board based on the best interest of Scouting in the communities it serves. Council camps, endowments, local fundraising and other property are separate and national organization. They will programming in the local whether a local council Victims 5

  6. Objection: Council relies on Scout families for donations too much. We already do the popcorn. Response: from this country, and an to NEIC. The unit. Family Friends for parents who are willing personal financial contribution support of NEIC programs. The popcorn sale supports the unit as well as the programs of the NEIC. The unit profit ratio product sale is one of the best in the equal portion of the proceeds goes majority of the profit stays with the of Scouting is an opportunity and able to make a directly in 6

  7. Objection: not Council started collecting $5 program fee is that enough? Response: for local per member to Locally, our current cost is and adult. We view Scouting as a between the Scouts, families, units, and the We all work together to prepare young people make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes. Because of this, we will continue to raise the funds necessary to subsidize a portion of the insurance expenses, but we will need your help and understanding The bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America allow councils to charge as much as $12.00 offset insurance fees. $9.45 per youth partnership Council. to to meet the projected increase. 7

  8. Objection: each the NEIC We pay $65 in dues to the Pack/Troop/Crew year. Why should we give more? Doesn t use that money? Response: unit $12 if your national processing fees. Five Northeast Illinois Council to Family Friends of Scouting campaign opportunity to support the NEIC, who in turn youth in the council. Part of the dues you paid to the unit are used within the itself for programs, badges, and books. $65 (plus child gets Boy s Life) $60 goes straight to the organization to pay for membership and dollars of this fee stays with the offset insurance cost. The gives families the support all 8

  9. Objection: pay Day Council doesn't do anything for us we have to for the advancement awards and Cub Scout Camp. Response: through camp and all cover program anything else the youth programs at a much lower cost camps in Lake and Cook county. The number of services to benefit the unit, professional staff, program guidance, and through roundtables, Training Days, training courses, Camp maintenance, unit membership administration, and advancement record keeping. Additionally, NEIC pays for liability insurance Each scout helps pay for their advancement awards dues and the unit budget plan. Our fees for day camps are based on what is necessary to materials, patches, t-shirts, and receive. The NEIC runs these than comparable youth NEIC does provide a including a trained support for every registered adult volunteer. 9

  10. Objection: I give my time as a leader. Response: program made volunteers. Those that are active in the program best benefits, and understand the value Scouting financially as well. We appreciate your service as a leader. That is the inherent strength of Scouting: a quality possible by many dedicated the closest and most understand the of supporting 10

  11. Objection: camp, the other It's expensive to send my scout to summer and the sleeping bag and pack and all equipment they need isn't cheap. Response: expendable staff). The other ongoing maintenance, utilities, included in the Council's operating of Scouting, the cost of camp would higher. The fee a Scout pays for summer camp only covers part of the cost (essentially the cost of their meals, program materials, and the summer camp costs, like building insurance, and the ranger's salary are budget. Without Friends have to be much a when you compare it to While sending your scout to summer camp does require commitment of funds, it's still the best deal around consider what they re learning (and when you other camps in the area). 11

  12. Objection: money! If the Council didn't have all those high-priced executives, they wouldn't need so much Response: have staff: we 14,000 members. with the members of the commissioner staff coordinating their your Unit. By working through these they are able to multiply their effectiveness. They a lot of time contacting community leaders, explaining Scouting program, working one on one with units, and enlisting volunteer support. Your District Executive is on call if you need assistance or guidance and is just a phone call away. Scouting is just like any other organization--we need to paid professional leaders, too. We run a very lean have 7 paid field staff members serving over Our district executives work closely district committee efforts in serving volunteers, and spend the 12

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