Nuclear Physics with Electromagnetic Probes

May 9th 2022
PERLE physics workshop
(potential) Nuclear Physics with PERLE
David Verney – IJCLab Orsay
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Delve into the intricate realm of nuclear physics through the utilization of electromagnetic probes, showcasing advancements in ion manipulation, mass measurements, laser spectroscopy, and more. Uncover the internal structure of nuclei and the nuances of electron scattering, offering a glimpse into the fundamental properties of nuclei and the mysteries of hadron physics. Join the PERLE Physics Workshop on May 9th, 2022, for an enlightening exploration of cutting-edge research in this field.

  • Nuclear Physics
  • Electromagnetic Probes
  • Ion Manipulation
  • Mass Measurements
  • Laser Spectroscopy

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  1. (potential) Nuclear Physics with PERLE David Verney IJCLab Orsay May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  2. Introduction : the electromagnetic probes in nuclear physics Introduction : the electromagnetic probes in nuclear physics current precision tool of choice ion manipulation with em fields: mass measurements intensively used at currently operated RIB facilities interaction with the hyperfine field : laser spectroscopy, nuclear orientation I( ), , Qs, <r2c> -spectroscopy : lifetimes, B(E ), B(M ) these measurements have reached an extraordinary degree of refinement but give access to (static or dynamical) integrated (global) quantities e- scattering nuclear physics: internal structure of the nucleus Ee= 500 MeV 0.5 fm scale hadron physics: structure of the nucleon The interior of the nucleus becomes accessible contrary to hadron probe, the only unknown in the reaction is the nuclear part May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  3. Introduction : the electromagnetic probes in nuclear physics Introduction : the electromagnetic probes in nuclear physics one example: laser spectroscopy <r2c> : propagate mean square radius change from isotopic shifts doubly magic 132Sn T1/2=39.7 s one the most fundamental properties of nuclei : saturation properties doubly magic 132Sn T1/2=39.7 s Fayans functional involving gradient terms in surface and pairing energies Skyrme family even more annoying : ab intio calculations face great difficulties in getting at the same time size and binding energy C. Georges et al. PRL 122, 192502 (2019) May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  4. Electron scattering off nuclei Electron scattering off nuclei nuclear physics: internal structure of the nucleus Ee= 500 MeV 0.5 fm scale hadron physics: structure of the nucleon e- scattering opens up a new dimension May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  5. Simple example : elastic scattering Simple example : elastic scattering (for =0 and J =0+ states) From the pioneering work of R. Hofstadter [1953 : e on Au ; Stanford] to the start of JLab through MIT Bates Laboratory, SLAC, Saclay this type of measurements has reached an extraordinary level of refinement and achievements (World Scientific 1991) in Modern Topics in Electron Scattering B. Frois et al 12 orders of magnitude ! Nobel price 1961 B. Frois and Papanicolas Ann. Rev. Nucl. Part. Sci 37 (1987) Decharg and Gogny PRC 81 (1980) Cavedon, Frois, Goutte et al. PRL 49 (1982) etc May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  6. Concrete state Concrete state- -of of- -the the- -art example from the past art example from the past Sick et al. PRL 35 910 (1975) experiment at Saclay Linear Accelerator (ALS) objective : very-high momentum-transfer (q=780 MeV/c), elastic electron-scattering experiment on 58Ni Experimental conditions beam : Ie=25 A Ee= 449.5 MeV; energy spread E=0.5 MeV target : 0.5 mm thick ! 400 mg/cm2equiv. 4.1 1021atoms/cm2 Estimated luminosity : 6 1032 cm-2s-1 this momentum transfer amounts to a cross section of 8 10-38cm2 one event every 6 hours for Ie=25 A May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  7. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei perspectives for the form factors of exotic nuclei double-ring collider : ELISE project at FAIR NESR (0.74 GeV/nucleon) + EAR (0.5 GeV) Targeted luminosity ~1028cm-2s-1 (excluded from funded part of FAIR) stable targets already used fixed target strategy Self-Confining RI Target : SCRIT pioneering proof of concept, existing device at RIKEN [Suda et al, PRL102, 102501 (2009)] Achieved luminosity is ~3x1027 cm-2s-1with stable Xe ETIC@GANIL proposal 2015 (Obertelli, Corsi CEA Saclay) Targeted luminosity is ~1029 cm-2s-1 very ambitious (and expensive) proposal technical feasibility not clear (Ie= 100-200 mA; Ntrap=106ions; x y=10-10m2) T. Suda, H. Simon [Progress in Particle and Nuclear Physics 96 (2017) 1] not retained May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  8. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei perspectives for the form factors of exotic nuclei with PERLE fixed target strategy : more compact, less resource demanding a physics project at PERLE requires 3 major ingredients : a Radioactive Ion Beam (RIB) factory 1 a Radioactive target preparation device 2 an electron spectrometer 3 May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  9. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei perspectives for the form factors of exotic nuclei with PERLE Rear drift chamber fixed target strategy : more compact, less resource demanding a physics project at PERLE requires 3 major ingredients : a Radioactive Ion Beam (RIB) factory 1 0.4 T for 150 MeV Front drift chamber a Radioactive target preparation device 2 (inspired by the pioneering SCRIT example) an electron spectrometer 3 no technological challenge T Ohnishi et al Phys. Scr. T166 (2015) 014071 May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  10. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei perspectives for the form factors of exotic nuclei with PERLE fixed target strategy : more compact, less resource demanding a physics project at PERLE requires 3 major ingredients : a Radioactive Ion Beam (RIB) factory 1 (inspired by the ALTO example) a Radioactive target preparation device 2 an electron spectrometer 3 no technological challenge RIB factory ISOL technique Photofission based in chapeau de gendarme May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  11. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei perspectives for the form factors of exotic nuclei with PERLE fixed target strategy : more compact, less resource demanding a physics project at PERLE requires 3 major ingredients : a Radioactive Ion Beam (RIB) factory 1 a Radioactive target preparation device 2 an electron spectrometer 3 where the technological challenge really lies May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  12. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei perspectives for the form factors of exotic nuclei with PERLE fixed target strategy : more compact, less resource demanding yes but all the complexity is concentrated in the target formation, target characteristics will define the achievable luminosities the radioactive target is a cloud of radioactive ions captured by the electrostatic potential created by the electron beam + auxiliary electrodes adapted from : M. Wakasugi Workshop on e-Ion collision at CEA Saclay (25-27 Apr. 2016) May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  13. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei perspectives for the form factors of exotic nuclei with PERLE fixed target strategy : more compact, less resource demanding yes but all the complexity is concentrated in the target formation, target characteristics will define the achievable luminosities =?? ?? =?? ?? Ninj ?? 2? ??2+ ?? 2 ?? 2+ ??,? 2 2+ ??,? 2 2? ??,? ??,? NT depend on 1) e beam intensity : at first order transverse potential depth ?? 2) e beam size Ie NT= trap overlapNinj May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  14. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Luminosity considerations Ie=200 mA from preliminary study within GANIL long-range prospective using WARP software (available online) trap length =10 cm Ninj NT depend on 1) e beam intensity : at first order transverse potential depth ?? 2) e beam size Ie NT= trap overlapNinj May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  15. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Luminosity considerations from preliminary study within GANIL long-range prospective ion heating due to the interaction with the e beam ?? ?2 charge state mass number ??trans ?? ? Ie=200 mA Ninj electron density (A/cm2) Ie=20 mA e beam NT depend on 1) e beam intensity : at first order transverse potential depth ?? 2) e beam size Ie NT= trap overlapNinj May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  16. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Luminosity considerations Sick et al. PRL 35 910 (1975) experiment at Saclay Linear Accelerator (ALS) on 58Ni cm-2s-1 FAIR/ELISE targeted luminosity assuming ??= 5 107ions (1+) e=100 m SCRIT luminosity with stable nuclei 6 1024 6 1028 1953 Hofstadter s luminosity 6 1032 absolute radius 2-parameters charge distributions at reach May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  17. Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Elastic scattering off radioactive nuclei Luminosity considerations May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

  18. Conclusion Conclusion future fixed-target RI experiments beam : Ie=20 mA (PERLE nominal) past experiments on stable nuclei beam : Ie=25 A Ee= 449.5 MeV; energy spread E=0.5 MeV target : 0.5 mm thick ! 400 mg/cm2equiv. 4.1 1021atoms/cm2 luminosities upto : 1032cm-2s-1 3 orders of magnitude more target : a cloud of ions ! exact amount ? 1010-11atoms/cm2 10 to 11 orders of magnitude less luminosity difficult to evaluate exactly (the size of the e beam is far from being the only driving parameter ! ) Ninj the ball is also in the court of nuclear physics : design and optimization of the target , need to invent new trapping strategies a serious evaluation of the achievable luminosities can only be obtained thanks to more elaborate simulations: (eg charge state evolutions) but even without any fancy concept absolute radius and 2-parameters charge distributions seam reasonably at reach NT Ie =?? ?? depend on 1) e beam intensity : at first order transverse potential depth ?? 2) e beam size 2? ??2+ ?? 2 ?? NT= trap overlapNinj May 9th 2022 PERLE physics workshop

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