Modern Service Systems & Community Frameworks

 
APSE Breakout Session
 
Try Another Way: Why Modern Systems
Don’t Work and What Can
 
I’m Bill Krebs
 
-In the process of being employed as a travel trainer so people can get to their
jobs. I have been wanting this job for years. I hope to have my own business
someday, and I’m real good at what I do.
-The non-profit organization that has supported me is funded by various
service systems including the Pennsylvania Offices of Developmental
Programs and Vocational Rehabilitation in Philadelphia.
-These organizations and others constitute my current system relationships,
though I have others, going back to sheltered work and  education.
-I am also engaged with a number of organizations dedicated to self-
determination, independent monitoring for quality,  and employment,
including the Pennsylvania APSE on which I serve as a state board member.
 
I’m Dana Olsen
 
System veteran of 33 years with Pennsylvania Office of Developmental
Programs,  where I helped start the Community Living Arrangements
(CLA)program, PASS, employment first, lifesharing, Independent Monitoring
for Quality (IM4Q),and other statewide initiatives.
My career in human services began in 1973, at a sheltered workshop called the
Shut In Society.
I stay in this work because it feels right.  With my current involvement in PA-
APSE, a history coalition honoring people with disability, the state DD
Council, and writing, I’m in as deep now as ever.
I’ve been a presentation partner with my friend Bill Krebs for a decade. I
appreciate that he’s smart, fun, a great dresser, and fearless.  He makes an
excellent speaker and facilitator as you are about to appreciate.
 
 
 
And You Are
 
1.
Individual  receiving disability services, life-sharer, loved one,
neighbor, advocate, family member,
2.
System funded direct support worker, employment specialist, job
coach, residence manager, life-sharer, or family member.
3.
A friend, citizen advocate, life-sharer, volunteer who provides
support 
without
 system compensation
3.    Policy or system wonk, program development specialist
4.    Organization executive, administrator, program director
5.
Program monitor, auditor, case-manager, inspector,   evaluator
6.
Academician, student, and researcher, indenpendent analyst
 
Just To Be Clear
 
How many of you have worked in the same or a
similar service system for 5 years or less?
How many of you have worked in or with human
service systems for 20 years or more?
 
What We’re Doing Here
 
Walking  through some mental exercises….
The first set of exercises reviews 
how service
systems stand up to the everyday living outcomes
that people seek in life
The second set engages a simple process 
to step out
of system assumptions in considering new ways
The third set considers
 
characteristics
 of
community frameworks that walk the talk
 
Do we generally agree that:
Human services  have a fundamental responsibility to
support people with disability in securing a job, a
home, and community resources.
People receiving services deserve to decide where, how
and with whom they live, work, and utilize community
resources
Services must be safeguarded to ensure health, safety,
rights, and cost-effectiveness
 
 
 
 
 
 
On The Basics
 
Bill’s Take and Others
 
In your life, how well has the service system done in
getting you on a career path, helping you out to
make your life less challenging at home, or making
use of community resources?
How well have the service systems done in taking
direction from you?  Have they been user friendly,
effective and efficient?
What do you think about the system now compared
to what you thought of it in past years?
 
Have You Noticed How 
Your
Service Systems
 
…Fail and succeed in supporting people to obtain a job and
a home of their choosing, or secure lasting community ties?
…Are invested in agency operated programs where groups
of people with disability  work, live, or associate among
themselves, without engaging in alternatives outside of the
network?
…Ensure health, safety, and quality by compliance with
special funding, rules, and standard practices that are not
applied by the public in their homes, businesses, and
community venues?
 
What’s Your Take?
 
1. Are people in your service system finding homes and
work like they could be?
2. Do you see your service systems taking on the tough
challenges with a reasonable degree of urgency,
integrity, and commitment?
3. Do you sense that your service systems really know
how they will turn things around to achieve everyday
outcomes with people?
 
Breaking This Down: Values
and Reality
 
We Ask Ourselves
 
ARE THESE SERVICE SYSTEMS AT ALL
COHERENT?
Are the right organizations
Doing the right things
With the right resources and support
In the the right ways?
 
Bill’s Take and Others
 
Did  you ever consider how it would be if your
support coordinator was your  friend, a relative, or
an advocate?
Would you like to comment on how providers of
pre-vocational services helped or didn’t help prepare
you for a career or job?
We hear a lot about the system being screwed up.
What’s this about for you?
 
Quiz Time:
 
How would you rate your service systems in terms
of their coherency with the values of Self-
Determination, Inclusion, Choice and
Accountability
?
Very or almost always coherent
Generally coherent
Coherent sometimes or in some ways
Hopelessly incoherent
 
Why Is This?
 
-What contributes to system shortfalls in terms of
achieving everyday living outcomes like employment?
-What causes systems to congregate people together in
sheltered settings, instead of in generic ones with non-
disabled peers?
-Why do we settle for so many shortfalls?
-What are we waiting for to ensure systems are
accountable to cost effective outcomes?
 
Bill’s Take and Other
 
Why is it that systems fall short in helping people get
jobs, find homes of their own, and secure
community ties?
What could systems do to change this or is the
problem bigger than what systems can reasonably
achieve?
 
Causation Summary
 
Generation’s focus on liberating  people from institutional
oppression and creating a specialized infrastructure to
secure health and safety in the community
Increasing number of complex administrative controls
that are not community inspired, friendly, or even  linked
Assumption that state and agency operated human
service systems, despite their drawbacks, are necessary for
maintaining appropriate standards
Lingering public perception that castes people with
disability as rightfully apart from the mainstream
community
 
 
 
 
 
Imagining: Bill’s Take and
Others
 
When you imagine life as you want it to be for
yourself, what do you imagine?
How do you contribute toward making that type of
life come true?
Who works with you on making your dreams and
aspirations come true?
What have system workers contributed to making
your life better in ways you want your life to be?
 
Don’t assume that:
A qualified professional has to develop a plan of care, coordinate services, or monitor utilization
Community based services are adequate because they are better than institutions, run by leaders
with good values.
Community resources are  unable to accommodate a person’s disability without oversight by
professionals and specialized providers, or that use of a generic resources like an employer could
not be more effective without system controls
Specialized organizations need to own service settings, employ workers, manage programs, and
control how resources are spent
A friend, advocate, coworker, family member, or neighbor cannot provide paid employment or
other  support
Specialized services are somehow safer, better, easier, or more cost effective than community
resources that accommodate to their customers, employees, and public
 
 
 
 
Imagining Better Ways:
Create Safe Space
 
Imagining:
Set Everyday Parameters
 
Accountability To Everyday Outcomes 
(Step out of
caregiving framework to one focused on securing a
home, job and community ties)
Community Resources Used First and Foremost to
Achieve Outcomes
. (Step out of system controlled
environments to community experiences where
people are appropriately matched)
People and their Community Resources With
Control of Resources
. (Step out of funding and
decisions made by specialized agencies)
 
 
 
Use administrative community resources 
like banks,
city inspectors, civic organizations, independent
monitors, generic depts., and citizen advocates for
administrative work
Use a family member, spouse, colleague, advocate,
NGOs for functions done in the system by case
managers, monitors, agency staff, and government
Redirect service funding from administrative entities to
restricted accounts managed by people and the
resources that support them.
 
 
 
 
 
Imagining: Sub-In Community
Corollaries
 
Imagining: Take Direction
 
For decision makers, put yourself in people’s shoes
Imagine support on a scale that embraces
community resources
Look at what non-disabled populations have done to
assimilate
Find room to stay human and stay open to new
ideas
Let the chips fall
 
What  Imagining Means For
Employment
 
Paying employers directly based on the extent of their
accommodation and support network
Giving employers and people the responsibility to
decide on engaging specialized providers of service
Trashing “pre” paradigms, and system practices like
plans of care that merely legitimize care-giving ways
Affording people the dignity of self-identifying for
accommodation and support outside of disability
 
Bill’s Take and Others
 
Given what you know about how funds for your
services have been used, how would you change things
if you had more control and could call the shots?
What would you say to people who suggest that trained
professionals have the right to manage your life
decisions because they have the money?
Do you think that people and families become
dependent on systems and how can this be changed?
 
Characteristics of Community
Frameworks
 
Utilize existing community resources, like banks, city
inspectors, civic organizations, and business sponsors, to
ensure that support is appropriately administered
Build on what individuals, families, friends and
communities do in securing living arrangements,
employment, and community ties
Apply support as an accommodation to achieve an
employment or other community outcome, not as a
specialized service
Transfer authority, resources and control to people and
the community resources that support them
 
Breaking This Down: Values
and Reality
 
Bill’s Take and Others
 
Closing thoughts
 
 
 
 
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Delve into the experiences and insights shared by Bill Krebs and Dana Olsen, experienced professionals in the human services sector. Understand the challenges and opportunities in modern service systems, along with strategies to step out of traditional assumptions towards innovative approaches. Explore the importance of community frameworks that prioritize individual outcomes and empowerment, paving the way for a more inclusive society.

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  1. APSE Breakout Session Try Another Way: Why Modern Systems Don t Work and What Can

  2. Im Bill Krebs -In the process of being employed as a travel trainer so people can get to their jobs. I have been wanting this job for years. I hope to have my own business someday, and I m real good at what I do. -The non-profit organization that has supported me is funded by various service systems including the Pennsylvania Offices of Developmental Programs and Vocational Rehabilitation in Philadelphia. -These organizations and others constitute my current system relationships, though I have others, going back to sheltered work and education. -I am also engaged with a number of organizations dedicated to self- determination, independent monitoring for quality, and employment, including the Pennsylvania APSE on which I serve as a state board member.

  3. Im Dana Olsen System veteran of 33 years with Pennsylvania Office of Developmental Programs, where I helped start the Community Living Arrangements (CLA)program, PASS, employment first, lifesharing, Independent Monitoring for Quality (IM4Q),and other statewide initiatives. My career in human services began in 1973, at a sheltered workshop called the Shut In Society. I stay in this work because it feels right. With my current involvement in PA- APSE, a history coalition honoring people with disability, the state DD Council, and writing, I m in as deep now as ever. I ve been a presentation partner with my friend Bill Krebs for a decade. I appreciate that he s smart, fun, a great dresser, and fearless. He makes an excellent speaker and facilitator as you are about to appreciate.

  4. And You Are 1. Individual receiving disability services, life-sharer, loved one, neighbor, advocate, family member, 2. System funded direct support worker, employment specialist, job coach, residence manager, life-sharer, or family member. 3. A friend, citizen advocate, life-sharer, volunteer who provides support without system compensation 3. Policy or system wonk, program development specialist 4. Organization executive, administrator, program director 5. Program monitor, auditor, case-manager, inspector, evaluator 6. Academician, student, and researcher, indenpendent analyst

  5. Just To Be Clear How many of you have worked in the same or a similar service system for 5 years or less? How many of you have worked in or with human service systems for 20 years or more?

  6. What Were Doing Here Walking through some mental exercises . The first set of exercises reviews how service systems stand up to the everyday living outcomes that people seek in life The second set engages a simple process to step out of system assumptions in considering new ways The third set considers characteristics of community frameworks that walk the talk

  7. On The Basics Do we generally agree that: Human services have a fundamental responsibility to support people with disability in securing a job, a home, and community resources. People receiving services deserve to decide where, how and with whom they live, work, and utilize community resources Services must be safeguarded to ensure health, safety, rights, and cost-effectiveness

  8. Bills Take and Others In your life, how well has the service system done in getting you on a career path, helping you out to make your life less challenging at home, or making use of community resources? How well have the service systems done in taking direction from you? Have they been user friendly, effective and efficient? What do you think about the system now compared to what you thought of it in past years?

  9. Have You Noticed How Your Service Systems Fail and succeed in supporting people to obtain a job and a home of their choosing, or secure lasting community ties? Are invested in agency operated programs where groups of people with disability work, live, or associate among themselves, without engaging in alternatives outside of the network? Ensure health, safety, and quality by compliance with special funding, rules, and standard practices that are not applied by the public in their homes, businesses, and community venues?

  10. Whats Your Take? 1. Are people in your service system finding homes and work like they could be? 2. Do you see your service systems taking on the tough challenges with a reasonable degree of urgency, integrity, and commitment? 3. Do you sense that your service systems really know how they will turn things around to achieve everyday outcomes with people?

  11. Breaking This Down: Values and Reality Value Self Determination System Reality Major life decisions controlled by the service network, not the people who receive services, their families, or the community resources that they might otherwise access Sheltered programs that congregate and exclude people on the basis of disability and do not develop ties with community resources Most people in systems still do not participate in selecting where or with whom they live, work, and socialize Minimum standards, escalating costs, and little if any links to quality of life measures Inclusion or Integration Choice Quality and Cost Effectiveness

  12. We Ask Ourselves ARE THESE SERVICE SYSTEMS AT ALL COHERENT? Are the right organizations Doing the right things With the right resources and support In the the right ways?

  13. Bills Take and Others Did you ever consider how it would be if your support coordinator was your friend, a relative, or an advocate? Would you like to comment on how providers of pre-vocational services helped or didn t help prepare you for a career or job? We hear a lot about the system being screwed up. What s this about for you?

  14. Quiz Time: How would you rate your service systems in terms of their coherency with the values of Self- Determination, Inclusion, Choice and Accountability? Very or almost always coherent Generally coherent Coherent sometimes or in some ways Hopelessly incoherent

  15. Why Is This? -What contributes to system shortfalls in terms of achieving everyday living outcomes like employment? -What causes systems to congregate people together in sheltered settings, instead of in generic ones with non- disabled peers? -Why do we settle for so many shortfalls? -What are we waiting for to ensure systems are accountable to cost effective outcomes?

  16. Bills Take and Other Why is it that systems fall short in helping people get jobs, find homes of their own, and secure community ties? What could systems do to change this or is the problem bigger than what systems can reasonably achieve?

  17. Causation Summary Generation s focus on liberating people from institutional oppression and creating a specialized infrastructure to secure health and safety in the community Increasing number of complex administrative controls that are not community inspired, friendly, or even linked Assumption that state and agency operated human service systems, despite their drawbacks, are necessary for maintaining appropriate standards Lingering public perception that castes people with disability as rightfully apart from the mainstream community

  18. Imagining: Bills Take and Others When you imagine life as you want it to be for yourself, what do you imagine? How do you contribute toward making that type of life come true? Who works with you on making your dreams and aspirations come true? What have system workers contributed to making your life better in ways you want your life to be?

  19. Imagining Better Ways: Create Safe Space Don t assume that: A qualified professional has to develop a plan of care, coordinate services, or monitor utilization Community based services are adequate because they are better than institutions, run by leaders with good values. Community resources are unable to accommodate a person s disability without oversight by professionals and specialized providers, or that use of a generic resources like an employer could not be more effective without system controls Specialized organizations need to own service settings, employ workers, manage programs, and control how resources are spent A friend, advocate, coworker, family member, or neighbor cannot provide paid employment or other support Specialized services are somehow safer, better, easier, or more cost effective than community resources that accommodate to their customers, employees, and public

  20. Imagining: Set Everyday Parameters Accountability To Everyday Outcomes (Step out of caregiving framework to one focused on securing a home, job and community ties) Community Resources Used First and Foremost to Achieve Outcomes. (Step out of system controlled environments to community experiences where people are appropriately matched) People and their Community Resources With Control of Resources. (Step out of funding and decisions made by specialized agencies)

  21. Imagining: Sub-In Community Corollaries Use administrative community resources like banks, city inspectors, civic organizations, independent monitors, generic depts., and citizen advocates for administrative work Use a family member, spouse, colleague, advocate, NGOs for functions done in the system by case managers, monitors, agency staff, and government Redirect service funding from administrative entities to restricted accounts managed by people and the resources that support them.

  22. Imagining: Take Direction For decision makers, put yourself in people s shoes Imagine support on a scale that embraces community resources Look at what non-disabled populations have done to assimilate Find room to stay human and stay open to new ideas Let the chips fall

  23. What Imagining Means For Employment Paying employers directly based on the extent of their accommodation and support network Giving employers and people the responsibility to decide on engaging specialized providers of service Trashing pre paradigms, and system practices like plans of care that merely legitimize care-giving ways Affording people the dignity of self-identifying for accommodation and support outside of disability

  24. Bills Take and Others Given what you know about how funds for your services have been used, how would you change things if you had more control and could call the shots? What would you say to people who suggest that trained professionals have the right to manage your life decisions because they have the money? Do you think that people and families become dependent on systems and how can this be changed?

  25. Characteristics of Community Frameworks Utilize existing community resources, like banks, city inspectors, civic organizations, and business sponsors, to ensure that support is appropriately administered Build on what individuals, families, friends and communities do in securing living arrangements, employment, and community ties Apply support as an accommodation to achieve an employment or other community outcome, not as a specialized service Transfer authority, resources and control to people and the community resources that support them

  26. Breaking This Down: Values and Reality Value Self Determination Inclusion or Integration Framework Reality Major life decisions controlled by people and the community resources that support them No funding of sheltered programs that congregate people together on the basis of their disability WE DON T DO THAT ANYMORE Everyone chooses how and where they live, work, socialize, and use generic resources Utilizing community means to achieve community ends, no more clinical norms. All support based on community norms, standards, and practices Choice Quality and Cost- Effectiveness

  27. Bills Take and Others Closing thoughts Thanks for sharing

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