Task Force Meeting @ISPO - 28th November 2023 Summary and Updates
The Task Force Meeting @ISPO on 28th November 2023 included a round of introductions, updates on current and upcoming major developments, discussions on French translations and Sport Industry Data, and plans for further developing the FEDAS PCK. Participants shared their roles, experience, and contributions to the meeting. Updates included details on the new service contract, upcoming releases, translations, and changes for Sportstyle and EOG. Action points involved file updates, translations, and industry terminology adjustments.
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Task Force Meeting @ISPO 28thof November 2023
Agenda 1. Welcome 2. Round of Introduction 3. Status: Current & next major Updates (incl. Sportstyle and EOG requests rgd climbing) 4. Short Points #1: French translations #2: Brainstorming Sport Industry Data/ Reports #3: Logos on website 5. TF working groups for further developing the FEDAS PCK 6. Any other topics 7. Next Steps (TF meetings 2024, other meetings, )
Participants (final list) Name Company Country Participation 1 Andre Navratil Sport 2000 International DE yes, f2f 2 Biljana Akik Sport 2000 GmbH DE yes, f2fl 3 Erika Schuh Sport 2000 International DE yes, f2fl 4 Fabio Remiorz Sport 2000 International DE yes, f2fl 5 Beniamino Cesarini INTERSPORT Deutschland DE yes, f2f 6 Tina Fahrenbruch INTERSPORT Deutschland DE yes, f2f 7 Scott Nelson EOG DE yes, f2f 8 Olaf Laarhoven Fashion United eBusiness BV NL yes, f2f 9 Maria Seljeson INTERSPORT Int. Corp / SGI-DHO CH yes, f2f 10 Reidar Magnus SGI-DHO CH yes, f2f 11 Silvia Heisch SGI-DHO DE yes, f2f 12 Ulf Hallmann Btwentyfour SE yes; 13 Elise Carr e Under Armour NL yes, online yes, online, but had to drop out yes, online 14 Peter Medele TATONKA DE 15 Olin Forster INTERSPORT Int. Corp / SGI-DHO CH
Agenda Point #2/ Round of Introductions (recorded) Summary/ Decisions taken/ Action Points: Here we went around the table and everybody introduced her/himself.. No decisions/ action points. Your name? Your sport(s)? How long with company/ your role in your company? How long with TF (task force)? Relationship w/ FEDAS PCK? How could you contribute to further development of the FEDAS concept (key competencies)?
Agenda Point #3: Status of Updates Summary/ Decisions taken/ Action Points: This was only explained/ presented Requests that came up: The new (updated) complete files should have the update version name in the name and also in the file (e.g. On 1st page) Look for a push option rgd updates (e.g. email w/ direct link to the update file) Have a further xls file that includes all active AND inactive codes AP: Silvia to look into options/ take up with Communardo. Current Update (2.32) In progress (changes already entered in the system) Migration new service contract w/ Communardo re-negotiated, will begin 1st of Dec. 2023 Workflow planned: 1.12.: release for translation Until 5.1.2024: translation 8.1.2024: new update released (=files av. on website, info mail @all subscribers) Next major update (2.33) Planned for end Q1/ 2024 Will encompass Sportstyle details (TBD) Also already planned. changes for EOG - the European Outdoor Group (TBD) Agreement/common language within the industry around outdoor activities In parallel: ask our IT provider Communardo to change soccer to football in all descriptions/ texts and add key word soccer respectively (approx. 440 lines, only in English master version, no translations needed)
Sportstyle - Details We agreed to change the name of activity #75 from Leisure/ Fashion to Sportstyle at last TF meeting. Main reason was to avoid fashion and become clearer what we mean products that are sporty in style, but not produced for being used for a specific sport, rather in lesure time, as sporty fashion items Topline, this change has already been entered in the system: Decision confirmed, call the activity Sportstyle (only) In the next update (V2.32, released for translation on 1.12.), this will already be changed on top level (only) In the first Update 2024 (V 2.33) planned for end Q1/2024), the text of all items/ products will be adapted accordingly AP: SH + Communardo to automatically replace leisure with sportstyle, then review (SH, only) For codes/ lines where it s unclear how to renam (expected 10% ) Erika agreed to help give feedback & decide on best wording. To Do: SH & Erika to finalize remaining Sportstyle codes by end Q1/2024 Summary/ Decisions taken/ Action Points: When looking at codes in detail (459 in total), the question arose if we want to change from leisure to sportsstyle everywhere in the description (text)*, or maybe stick with leisure here and call the activity Sportstyle/ Leisure see examples on next pages If yes (change all) request: who can help with input (working group)? * As this concerns a long list of codes, which then also need to be translated, these changes ow planned for update I Q1/2023
Sportstyle Examples in PT #1: Equipment 175830 175832 175833 175835 175836 1 1 1 1 1 Equipment Equipment Equipment Equipment Equipment 75 75 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 83 83 83 83 83 Leisure bags Leisure bags Leisure bags Leisure bags Leisure bags 0 2 3 5 6 Various Trolley's (with handle) Office/Business bags Handbags Shoulder bags Vari. leisure bags Leisure trolley's (with handle) Leisure office/business bags Leisure handbags Leisure shoulder bags Var. sportstyle bags Sportstyle trolleys? Or just trolleys (reco) Sportstyle office/business bags? Sportstyle handbags? Sportstyle shoulder bags? 175841 175843 1 1 Equipment Equipment 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 84 84 Sacks / Small bags Sacks / Small bags 1 3 Toilet bags Waistbags Leisure toilet bags Leisure waistbags Sportstyle toilet bags? Or just toilet bags (reco) Sportstyle waist bags? 175909 175941 1 1 Equipment Equipment 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 90 94 Backpacks Eye protectors 9 1 Accessories Sunglasses Men/Uni Access. Leisure backpacks Sunglasses Men/Uni Acc. sportstyle backpacks add sportstyle? 175941 175942 175943 1 1 1 Equipment Equipment Equipment 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 94 94 94 Eye protectors Eye protectors Eye protectors 1 2 3 Sunglasses Men/Uni Sunglasses Lad Sunglasses Chi Sunglasses Men/Uni Sunglasses Ladies Sunglasses Children add sportstyle? add sportstyle? add sportstyle? 175965 1 Equipment 75 Leisure / Fashion 96 Tools, Care, Repair items 5 Care products Leisure care products What are leisure resp. sportstyle care products? 175970 175971 175972 175973 175975 1 1 1 1 1 Equipment Equipment Equipment Equipment Equipment 75 75 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 97 97 97 97 97 Literature, multimedia Literature, multimedia Literature, multimedia Literature, multimedia Literature, multimedia 0 1 2 3 5 Various Magazines Books Maps Multimedia Vari. Leisure literature,V Leisure magazines Leisure books Leisure maps Leisure multimedia Var. sportsstyle literature? Sportsstyle magazines? Sportsstyle books? Sportsstyle maps? Sportsstyle multimedia? 175992 1 Equipment 75 Leisure / Fashion 99 Various items / Access 2 Umbrella Umbrella Sportstyle umbrellas? 275024 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 02 Headbands/Sun screens/Masks 4 Sun screens Men/Uni Leis. sun screens Men/Unisex What are leisure resp. sportstyle sun screens? Just sun screens? Correct here?
Sportstyle Examples in PT #2: Apparel 275011 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 01 Caps / Hats / Peak caps 1 Caps Men/Uni Leis. Caps Men/Uni Sportstyle caps Men/Uni 275021 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 02 Headbands/Sun screens/Masks 1 Headbands Men/Uni Leisure headbands Men/Uni Sportstyle headbands Men/Uni? 275024 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 02 Headbands/Sun screens/Masks 4 Sun screens Men/Uni Leis. sun screens Men/Unisex What are leisure resp. sportstyle sun screens? Just sun screens? Correct here? 275034 275035 275036 275041 2 2 2 2 Apparel Apparel Apparel Apparel 75 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 03 03 03 04 Scarves / Shawls Scarves / Shawls Scarves / Shawls Gloves 4 5 6 1 Shawls Men/Uni Shawls Lad Shawls Chi Gloves Men/Uni Leis. sum. Shawls Men/Uni Leis. sum. Shawls Ladies Leis. sum. Shawls Children Leis. gloves Men/Unisex Sportstyle sum. shawls Men/Uni? (and what are sum shawls = summer shawls? Put in key words?) Sportstyle sum. shawls Lad? Sportstyle sum. shawls Chi? Sportstyle gloves? 275052 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 05 Bras 2 Bras lad Leis. bras Sportstyle bras? 275064 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 06 Undershirt 4 short sleeve Men/Uni Leis. s.sleeve undershirt Men/UniSportstyle s sleeve undershirts Men/Uni 275088 275089 2 2 Apparel Apparel 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 08 08 Tights Tights 8 9 Lad Chi Leis. tights Ladies Leis. tights Children Sportstyle tights Lad Sportstyle tights Chi 275101 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 10 Bodies 1 sleeveless Men/Uni Leis. sleeveless bodies Men/Unisex bodies for men? 275121 275411 2 2 Apparel Apparel 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 12 41 T-Shirts / Tanks Coats 1 1 sleeveless Men/Uni short Men/Uni Leis. sleevel. t-shirt/tank Men/UniSportstyle sleevel. t-shirt/tank Men/Uni Leis. short coats Men/Unisex Sportstyle short coats Men/Uni 275494 275504 275522 2 2 2 Apparel Apparel Apparel 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 49 50 52 Knickerbockers Bermudas Hot Pants / Briefs 4 4 2 Men/Uni Men/Uni Briefs Lad Leis. knickerbockers Men/UnisexSportstyle knickerbockers Men/Unisex Leis. bermudas Men/Unisex Sportstyle bermudas Men/Unisex Leis. briefs Ladies Sportstyle briefs Ladies 275534 275537 275591 2 2 2 Apparel Apparel Apparel 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 53 53 59 Tights Tights Socks / Stockings 4 7 1 knee-length Men/Uni long Men/Uni Socks Men/Uni Leis. knee-long tights Men/Unisex Sportstyle knee-long tights Men/Unisex Leis. long tights Men/Unisex Sportstyle long tights Men/Unisex Leis. socks Men/Unisex Sportstyle socks Men/Uni 275807 2 Apparel 75 Leisure / Fashion 80 Rain jackets 7 long Men/Uni Leis. long rain jackets Men/Unisex Sportstyle rain jackets Men/Uni 275991 275992 275993 275994 275995 275996 275998 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 Apparel Apparel Apparel Apparel Apparel Apparel Apparel 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 Accessories Accessories Accessories Accessories Accessories Accessories Accessories 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 Towels Handkerchiefs Fashion-/Jewellery Belts Ties Braces Wrist band Leis. towels Leis. handkerchiefs Leis. fashion-/jewellery Leis. belts Leis. ties Leis. braces Leis. wrist bands Sportstyle towels? Or just towels? Sportstyle handkerchiefs? Sportstyle fashion-/jewellery? Sportstyle belts? Sportstyle ties? Sportstyle braces? Sportstyle wrist bands?
Sportstyle Examples in PT #3: Footwear 375234 3 Footwear 75 Leisure / Fashion 23 Boots 4 mid Men/Uni Leisure boots Men/Uni mid Sportstyle boots Men/Uni mid 375311 3 Footwear 75 Leisure / Fashion 31 Low shoes 1 Men/Uni Low shoes Men low Sportsstyle low shoes Men/Uni? 375323 375597 375598 375599 375724 375725 375726 375727 375728 375729 375801 375802 375803 375821 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear Footwear 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 75 Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion Leisure / Fashion 32 59 59 59 72 72 72 72 72 72 80 80 80 82 Slippers Inner boots Inner boots Inner boots Rubber boots Rubber boots Rubber boots Rubber boots Rubber boots Rubber boots Clogs Clogs Clogs Sandals 3 7 8 9 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3 1 Chi Men/Uni high Lad high Chi high Men/Uni mid Lad mid Chi mid Men/Uni high Lad high Chi high Men/Uni Lad Chi Men/Uni Slippers Children Inner boots Men/Uni high Inner boots Ladies high Inner boots Children high Rubber boots Men mid Rubber boots Ladies mid Rubber boots Children mid Rubber boots Men high Rubber boots Ladies high Rubber boots Children high Clogs Men Clogs Ladies Clogs Children Sandals Men keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep keep 375961 3 Footwear 75 Leisure / Fashion 96 Lifestyle shoes 1 Men/Uni low Lifestyle shoes Men low keep Lifestyle or change to Sportsyle shoes...? 375981 3 Footwear 75 Leisure / Fashion 98 Various leisure shoes 1 Men/Uni low Various leisure shoes Men low Various sportstyle shoes? Or Leisure shoes?
EOG: Agreement/common language within the industry around outdoor activities EOG is putting together the Outdoor Market Intelligence Service (OMIS) Reporting Rather than creating a new categorization for this, the aim is to use the existing FEDAS PCK as common data language already in use by the industry as basis and adjust/ add to it to accommodate EOG s needs The suggestions so far are: 1. Take out Hiking from activity #65 Mountaineering/ Hiking and add Hiking to activity #45 Walking/ Nordic Walking to become Walking/ Nordic Walking/ Hiking (TBD) Summary/ Decisions taken/ Action Points: Scott quickly explained the EOG requests. The fact that brands are demanding changes and EOG wants to work with the Fedas PCK as common language was very positively received. Scott, Biljana, Reidar and Tina volunteered to join the working group for this. Also Jane from the EOG will join as expert (non TF member). It was also suggested to activate Tim, outdoor/ climbing expert from Sport 2000, for this decision. A further meeting took place already at ISPO on the day after and besides discussing some first points, it was agreed to arrange a meeting with the working group, ideally still in December, in order to make progress on this topic. AP: Silvia to arrange/ co-ordinate The working group EOG/ outdoor will work to find the best solution that will be presented at the next TF meeting in Feb. 2024. 2. Add Ice & Mixed Climbing to activity #65 Mountaineering/ (Hiking) (OK, details TBD) 3. Add 3 new separate further climbing activities: (TBD) Big Wall/ Trad/ Sport Climbing Bouldering and Via Ferrata/ Canyoning/ Caving AP: Erika to contact him/ bring us together. + further Point: Add Trail Running to activity #46 Running to become Running/ Trail Running (re-name activity on top level, only) ok, will be added in next update. TBD: what very specific trail running equipment is there, e.g. shoes, sticks - different to walking/ nordic walking or hiking Who could help & wants to join this working group?
Agenda Point #4/ Short Points #2: Brainstorming Sport Industry Data/ Reports (where FEDAS PCK could play or already plays a role): #1: French translations still open, who could take care of this? or not relevant??? Summary/ Decisions taken/ Action Points rgd Short Point #1 Suggestion was to try to use ai + expert, e.g. Deepl for a first translation, then a native speaker just needs to check if the translations are correct. Nathalie was suggested as expert for checking French translations AP: Biljana to ask Nathalie if she would do this (P.S.: I (Silvia) can give her a short introduction/ training to the online tool) @ Erika: could we also ask Laetitia if Nathalie doesn t work out? #3: Logos on website: We would like to put the logos of all TF members onto the SGI-DHO website. Points #2 & 3 were not discussed keep for next meeting. Objections? How to proceed?
Agenda Point #5/ Working Groups EOG/ Outdoor: Tim, Tina, Scott, Reidar, Silvia (+Jane from EOG) Future Database System/ Process/ User Needs (incl. e.g. push updates API): Olin, Reidar, Olaf, Biljana PR/ events: Fabio + Holger (internal impulse) ? Website: Silvia + ? Other ? e.g. translation system(or is this part of the DB system TBD) Summary/ Decisions taken/ Action Points Two concrete working groups were formed: EOG/ Outdoor and Future DB system/ Process/ User needs see slide for members AP: Silvia to organize/ co-ordinate next meetings/ present results at next TF meeting Further creation of work groups, e.g. for the Website, PR/ events or other to be discussed at next meeting AP: define lead & check on next steps for WG Future DB System, create & structure further WGs.
Agenda Point #6 and #7/ Any other Topics & next steps Summary/ Decisions taken/ Action Points No other topics cam up as we ran out of time Decision taken to cancel Dec. meeting as the ISPO meeting relay replaced this AP: cancel TF meeting in December (Silvia/ Olin - done) Other next steps were not discussed AP: take to next TF meeting Any other topics: ? Next steps Next TF meeting (online) on 12th of December 2023 (9-10am) cancel? TF meetings 2024: best modus operandi Other meetings 2024 ? Again @ISPO?