Strategic Selling Insights from Partner Conference 2014

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Strategic Selling
 
By Paul Neveu, SVP Sales and Marketing, BPAS
 
1
 
Opening thoughts
 
You walk into a presentation. Shake hands, smile at everyone, make eye
contract. Look around the room, get a feel for the players involved, and what
type of meeting they are looking for.
 
In the next hour, 
anything
 can happen. You might walk out frustrated and
exasperated. You might walk out thinking, “that was a decent meeting; now the
ball is in their court”. Or you might walk out knowing  you won the business.
 
How you handle yourself, what happens in the meeting, and the way you
interact with decision makers drive everything.
 
2
 
Opening thoughts
 
There is an art to selling 
– just like any performance in music, dance, or
theater. In sales, one quality hour can be more important than a week of
“normal work.” It’s where sales people make their living.
 
This presentation is a collection of observations from hundreds of sales
meetings. I hope you find some these insights helpful.
 
3
 
A Look Back to 1995
 
Internet was just taking hold
People had time for meetings
Formal presentations were the norm/expectation
Presenter talked for an hour, followed by Q&A
 
Everyone was busy, but in a manageable way
People were impressed by technology (e.g.,
daily valuations)
There was time for a well informed vendor
selection process
 
4
 
Today: the dynamics have changed
 
Most people are stretched thin
Too many emails
Information overload
Prospect has a 
limited time
Can’t consider every issue during
the process
Meetings become disjointed
Impression
 is more lasting than
the information exchange
 
5
 
Eight factors that drive wins
 
6
 
Eight factors that drive wins
 
7
 
Effective Listening
 
Take Notice:
Who are the players?
What role does each play in regards to the plan?
Who are the dominant personalities? The deferential
personalities?
Who will drive the decision?
Which areas should I focus on in this meeting?
 
 
8
 
Open ended questions
 are essential
When you talk 90% of the time, you’re not going to win
When dialogue is 50% /50%,
 
 
Effective Listening
 
chances
of winning
triple!
 
9
 
Effective Listening
 
10
 
Effective Listening
 
Plan design opportunities
Fiduciary issues:
Fiduciary status of providers (non-fiduciary, 3(21),
3(38), etc.)
Quality, frequency of  education meetings
One on one meetings
Participant advice or education/guidance ?
Current Configuration
Issues, concerns, complaints
 
 
11
 
Set your strategy / flow for the meeting
 
“Rather than just give you a standard presentation, I
want to tailor this meeting to 
your actual needs and
concerns
“Tell me about your plan, your recent experience,
and which topics you’d like me to touch on today?”
Make sure you conduct a 
balanced meeting 
(e.g.,
don’t spending 90% of the time on investments)
 
12
 
Balanced presentation of capabilities
 
A
 
B
 
A. 
 
We have the capabilities,
expertise and credentials to excel
at this engagement
 
B. 
 
We will be humble and
responsive to your needs (not
arrogant or condescending)
 
Said another way: 
We are 
big enough
 to handle your plan and
this relationship is important to us.
 
13
 
Thoughts on the capabilities overview
 
Is your firm a 
known quantity 
to the prospect or not?
People want this section 
kept SHORT
… they get
bored quickly
Illustrations, visuals, list of household name clients,
figures to validate the size of your organization
Don’t read bullets in the meeting…
respect the
client’s intelligence
 
14
 
Thoughts on the capabilities overview
 
Your goal: “We know enough about you that we could
present you to our peers as the next provider.”
Relevant references
Everyone wants to believe there is something unique
about the way a DC plan works for a car dealership, or
a manufacturing company, or an accounting firm (their
industry)
Be prepared to give references and cite other clients in
the same industry (BPAS references will always help)
 
15
 
Building trust and rapport
 
People buy from people that they LIKE
Show you are genuine; you have a life outside of work
Read people and the room
The chameleon beats the elephant every time
Type of group: formal or informal; white collar, blue collar or a
mix?
Observe how THEY act and communicate
Observe the egos in the room; who likes to “call the shots”
Dovetail with it
 
 
 
 
 
16
 
Building trust and rapport
 
Be honest 
about the product (l
 
, fees, what can/can’t do)
Short answers
When you don’t know, 
admit it
Write it down, promptly follow up afterward with answers
Let your personality show! 
People are turned off by “stiff”
corporate personalities
Spontaneous humor
Using measured language
 
 
 
 
 
17
 
Miscellaneous
 
Non-verbal cues
Lack of eye contact
Some try to control, steer the meeting
Looking at watches, phone
Shuffling papers
Looks of interest or apathy
Who is willing to ask questions
Who offers limited information / plays a mean game of poker
 
18
 
Miscellaneous
 
Continuous eye contact
Spread it around the room--treat all
players as equally important
Use of industry terminology
inevitable, but be smart about it
 
19
 
Getting into your comfort zone
 
Face-to-face meetings vs conference calls or webcasts
Sales people, earlier in their career:
Focus on delivering polished presentations
Make a “sales pitch”
Identify and overcome objections, advance the sale, etc.
Anxiety, nerves before meetings
Worry about knowing the answers
Worry about the flow, sequence and agenda of meetings
 
 
20
 
Getting into your comfort zone
 
Seasoned sales people (later in their career)
Know the subject matter inside and out
Quiet confidence
Go in fresh, without rehearsal--go with the flow of the meeting
Leads to far better meetings because nerves don’t get in the way
Not intimidated by key decision makers or dominant
personalities
Don’t over think it--go into the meeting and respond
 
 
21
 
Technical interchange/solving problems
 
Tactfully educate the prospect during a meeting to
advance the sale
 
Plan design
ERISA rules
Compliance testing
Investment matters
Industry statistics
 
 
DOL or IRS rules
Fiduciary considerations
Types of fiduciaries and
what the status means
 
22
 
Quantify numbers and value proposition
 
At the end of the day, decision makers need to be able
to say something like:
We looked at four proposals. Cost ranged from 101 to 152 basis points;
each proposal had advantages. The proposal from _______ and BPAS
came in around 136 basis points. But, BPAS offers 3(38) fiduciary
services, strong participant education and a full-service plan
administrator to simplify and enhance our plan. It’s a good value for
reasonable fees, so we are making that recommendation. We also
know we could reduce total cost by 30 basis points if we go with the
lowest cost menu of funds.
 
23
 
Quantify numbers and value proposition
 
Your job is to help them arrive at these figures
Vendor cost comparison matrix
Mini RFP
Joe Boyle’s presentation focused on this
Best practice: Show what total cost would be for your
recommended menu 
as well as the 
lowest cost menu
Cost of investments needs to be 
isolated to its own category 
to
avoid creating impressions which can cause us both to lose the bid.
Don’t “go down with the ship” over a particular investment menu.
 
24
 
Points to ponder
 
Having variation in investment menus among  retirement-
plan clients is 
inevitable
Remember, we are in this business for three reasons:
1.
To do an outstanding job of servicing clients
2.
To help participants be able to retire
3.
To be profitable
 
25
 
Points to ponder
 
We appreciate it when our financial intermediary partners
have strong convictions about their investment menu.
However, there will be certain plans where “breaking the
mold” is necessary
Consider adding certain funds to your approved list (after review)
Consider supporting certain funds on a “directed” basis, outside of
your fiduciary status
Possible to handle certain funds through Schwab PCRA window
Don’t forget the value of “true open architecture”
 
26
 
Spontaneous interaction
 
Encourage attendees to ask questions as they come up, not
wait until the end
Continue to ask THEM questions during the meeting
Have a list of questions in your folder to use throughout
Short answers are essential
People won’t remember your response or they think you’re
being evasive
 
 
27
 
Spontaneous interaction
 
Avoid long stretches 
where you’re the only person talking (more
than 3 minutes)
The mind falls asleep when it hears the same voice for a continued
stretch of time
Use actor techniques
Alternate tone, speed, pitch and volume-
-use pauses, rising or falling
intonation
Vary body position--standing, sitting, hand gestures, walking around
the room
Mix it up, keep it fresh, keep people interested
Practice! 
Video tape a presentation or meeting, review and critique it
 
 
28
 
Urgency/Respect for time
 
Acknowledge the common things in most
proposals so you don’t waste time on them (e.g.,
daily valuation and website access)
Pay close attention to verbal and non-verbal cues
More than an hour? Make sure they’re engaged,
not your hostages
 
29
 
Urgency/Respect for time
 
Wrapping up a meeting early will
score points
What are your three lasting points?
Don’t read bullets--respect their
intelligence
Keep the meeting one of intellectual
engagement, not just a “presentation
of information”
 
 
30
 
Professionalism, Timing and Follow-up
 
Identify 2-3 items/questions for follow up
Respond to all parties with answers
Multiple emails are better than a single email
Send thank-you email after meeting
Ask for opportunities to provide web demo,
conference call, or other follow-up discussion
Continual follow up, while respecting their process
 
 
 
31
 
References Are Key
 
Best way to advance a sale
Have an advance discussion
Select right personality
Cultivate relationship with references
Remember that 
BPAS has many
references 
who can be called upon as well
 
32
 
Questions?
 
33
 
Contact
 
Paul Neveu
Senior VP of Sales & Marketing
BPAS
pneveu@bpas.com
603-580-5522
 
34
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In the Partner Conference 2014, Paul Neveu shared valuable insights on strategic selling, highlighting the evolving dynamics of sales meetings. He emphasized the importance of personal interactions, effective listening, building trust, and adapting to the changing landscape of sales. The presentation outlined eight key factors that drive successful sales engagements, focusing on techniques to engage prospects, solve problems, and deliver value propositions effectively.

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  1. Strategic Selling By Paul Neveu, SVP Sales and Marketing, BPAS Partner Conference 2014 1

  2. Partner Conference 2014 Opening thoughts You walk into a presentation. Shake hands, smile at everyone, make eye contract. Look around the room, get a feel for the players involved, and what type of meeting they are looking for. In the next hour, anything can happen. You might walk out frustrated and exasperated. You might walk out thinking, that was a decent meeting; now the ball is in their court . Or you might walk out knowing you won the business. How you handle yourself, what happens in the meeting, and the way you interact with decision makers drive everything. 2

  3. Partner Conference 2014 Opening thoughts There is an art to selling just like any performance in music, dance, or theater. In sales, one quality hour can be more important than a week of normal work. It s where sales people make their living. This presentation is a collection of observations from hundreds of sales meetings. I hope you find some these insights helpful. 3

  4. Partner Conference 2014 A Look Back to 1995 Internet was just taking hold People had time for meetings Formal presentations were the norm/expectation Presenter talked for an hour, followed by Q&A Everyone was busy, but in a manageable way People were impressed by technology (e.g., daily valuations) There was time for a well informed vendor selection process 4

  5. Partner Conference 2014 Today: the dynamics have changed Most people are stretched thin Too many emails Information overload Prospect has a limited time Can t consider every issue during the process Meetings become disjointed Impression is more lasting than the information exchange 5

  6. Partner Conference 2014 Eight factors that drive wins Effective Listening 1 Understanding Personalities 2 Balanced Presentation of Capabilities 3 Building Trust & Rapport 4 6

  7. Partner Conference 2014 Eight factors that drive wins Technical Interchange/ Solving Problems 5 Quantifying Numbers & Value Proposition 6 Spontaneous Interaction 7 Professionalism, Timing & Follow-up 8 7

  8. Partner Conference 2014 Effective Listening Take Notice: Who are the players? What role does each play in regards to the plan? Who are the dominant personalities? The deferential personalities? Who will drive the decision? Which areas should I focus on in this meeting? 8

  9. Partner Conference 2014 Effective Listening Open ended questions are essential When you talk 90% of the time, you re not going to win When dialogue is 50% /50%, chances of winning triple! 9

  10. Partner Conference 2014 Effective Listening Take careful notes (see handout) Plan assets, participant count, plan design and features, payroll configuration, current provider mix, etc. Eligibility, loan adjudication, hardships and distributions, vesting, enrollment, year-end process, audit package and support, testing, recordkeeping or administration, level of QC review, RFP issues Administrative issues Needs Analysis 10

  11. Partner Conference 2014 Effective Listening Plan design opportunities Fiduciary issues: Fiduciary status of providers (non-fiduciary, 3(21), 3(38), etc.) Quality, frequency of education meetings One on one meetings Participant advice or education/guidance ? Current Configuration Issues, concerns, complaints 11

  12. Partner Conference 2014 Set your strategy / flow for the meeting Rather than just give you a standard presentation, I want to tailor this meeting to your actual needs and concerns Tell me about your plan, your recent experience, and which topics you d like me to touch on today? Make sure you conduct a balanced meeting (e.g., don t spending 90% of the time on investments) 12

  13. Partner Conference 2014 Balanced presentation of capabilities A. We have the capabilities, expertise and credentials to excel at this engagement B B. We will be humble and responsive to your needs (not arrogant or condescending) A Said another way: We are big enough to handle your plan and this relationship is important to us. 13

  14. Partner Conference 2014 Thoughts on the capabilities overview Is your firm a known quantity to the prospect or not? People want this section kept SHORT they get bored quickly Illustrations, visuals, list of household name clients, figures to validate the size of your organization Don t read bullets in the meeting respect the client s intelligence 14

  15. Partner Conference 2014 Thoughts on the capabilities overview Your goal: We know enough about you that we could present you to our peers as the next provider. Relevant references Everyone wants to believe there is something unique about the way a DC plan works for a car dealership, or a manufacturing company, or an accounting firm (their industry) Be prepared to give references and cite other clients in the same industry (BPAS references will always help) 15

  16. Partner Conference 2014 Building trust and rapport People buy from people that they LIKE Show you are genuine; you have a life outside of work Read people and the room The chameleon beats the elephant every time Type of group: formal or informal; white collar, blue collar or a mix? Observe how THEY act and communicate Observe the egos in the room; who likes to call the shots Dovetail with it 16

  17. Limitati ons Fees an ts Partner Conference 2014 Be honest about the product Building trust and rapport about the product (l admit it Write it down, promptly follow up afterward with answers People are turned off by stiff 17

  18. Partner Conference 2014 Miscellaneous Non-verbal cues Lack of eye contact Some try to control, steer the meeting Looking at watches, phone Shuffling papers Looks of interest or apathy Who is willing to ask questions Who offers limited information / plays a mean game of poker 18

  19. Partner Conference 2014 Miscellaneous Continuous eye contact Spread it around the room--treat all players as equally important Use of industry terminology inevitable, but be smart about it 19

  20. Partner Conference 2014 Getting into your comfort zone Face-to-face meetings vs conference calls or webcasts Sales people, earlier in their career: Focus on delivering polished presentations Make a sales pitch Identify and overcome objections, advance the sale, etc. Anxiety, nerves before meetings Worry about knowing the answers Worry about the flow, sequence and agenda of meetings 20

  21. Partner Conference 2014 Getting into your comfort zone Seasoned sales people (later in their career) Know the subject matter inside and out Quiet confidence Go in fresh, without rehearsal--go with the flow of the meeting Leads to far better meetings because nerves don t get in the way Not intimidated by key decision makers or dominant personalities Don t over think it--go into the meeting and respond 21

  22. Partner Conference 2014 Technical interchange/solving problems Tactfully educate the prospect during a meeting to advance the sale DOL or IRS rules Fiduciary considerations Types of fiduciaries and what the status means Plan design ERISA rules Compliance testing Investment matters Industry statistics 22

  23. Partner Conference 2014 Quantify numbers and value proposition At the end of the day, decision makers need to be able to say something like: We looked at four proposals. Cost ranged from 101 to 152 basis points; each proposal had advantages. The proposal from _______ and BPAS came in around 136 basis points. But, BPAS offers 3(38) fiduciary services, strong participant education and a full-service plan administrator to simplify and enhance our plan. It s a good value for reasonable fees, so we are making that recommendation. We also know we could reduce total cost by 30 basis points if we go with the lowest cost menu of funds. 23

  24. Partner Conference 2014 Quantify numbers and value proposition Your job is to help them arrive at these figures Vendor cost comparison matrix Mini RFP Joe Boyle s presentation focused on this Best practice: Show what total cost would be for your recommended menu as well as the lowest cost menu Cost of investments needs to be isolated to its own category to avoid creating impressions which can cause us both to lose the bid. Don t go down with the ship over a particular investment menu. 24

  25. Partner Conference 2014 Points to ponder Having variation in investment menus among retirement- plan clients is inevitable Remember, we are in this business for three reasons: 1. To do an outstanding job of servicing clients 2. To help participants be able to retire 3. To be profitable 25

  26. Partner Conference 2014 Points to ponder We appreciate it when our financial intermediary partners have strong convictions about their investment menu. However, there will be certain plans where breaking the mold is necessary Consider adding certain funds to your approved list (after review) Consider supporting certain funds on a directed basis, outside of your fiduciary status Possible to handle certain funds through Schwab PCRA window Don t forget the value of true open architecture 26

  27. Partner Conference 2014 Spontaneous interaction Encourage attendees to ask questions as they come up, not wait until the end Continue to ask THEM questions during the meeting Have a list of questions in your folder to use throughout Short answers are essential People won t remember your response or they think you re being evasive 27

  28. Partner Conference 2014 Spontaneous interaction Avoid long stretches where you re the only person talking (more than 3 minutes) The mind falls asleep when it hears the same voice for a continued stretch of time Use actor techniques Alternate tone, speed, pitch and volume--use pauses, rising or falling intonation Vary body position--standing, sitting, hand gestures, walking around the room Mix it up, keep it fresh, keep people interested Practice! Video tape a presentation or meeting, review and critique it 28

  29. Partner Conference 2014 Urgency/Respect for time Acknowledge the common things in most proposals so you don t waste time on them (e.g., daily valuation and website access) Pay close attention to verbal and non-verbal cues More than an hour? Make sure they re engaged, not your hostages 29

  30. Partner Conference 2014 Urgency/Respect for time Wrapping up a meeting early will score points What are your three lasting points? Don t read bullets--respect their intelligence Keep the meeting one of intellectual engagement, not just a presentation of information 30

  31. Partner Conference 2014 Professionalism, Timing and Follow-up Identify 2-3 items/questions for follow up Respond to all parties with answers Multiple emails are better than a single email Send thank-you email after meeting Ask for opportunities to provide web demo, conference call, or other follow-up discussion Continual follow up, while respecting their process 31

  32. Partner Conference 2014 References Are Key Best way to advance a sale Have an advance discussion Select right personality Cultivate relationship with references Remember that BPAS has many references who can be called upon as well 32

  33. Partner Conference 2014 Questions? 33

  34. Partner Conference 2014 Contact Paul Neveu Senior VP of Sales & Marketing BPAS pneveu@bpas.com 603-580-5522 34

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