Statistical Engineering - Finding Our Identity

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Statistical Engineering:
Finding our Identity
WHAT DO WE THINK IT IS?
WHAT DO OTHERS THINK IT IS?
WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO BE?
1
For consideration.
By Caleb & Lindsay King
Who Are We Exactly?
 
After the 2nd ISEA Summit, it seemed there was still some lingering confusion regarding the new field of
Statistical Engineering.
This confusion seemed especially evident as I tried to discuss this new field with my wife.
Caleb has a Ph.D. in Statistics and is practicing Statistician.
Lindsay has a Masters in Applied Mathematics and works as an IT Project Management Consultant.
This presentation is the result of evening discussions over several weeks
trying to understand the confusion.
 
2
Potential Sources of Confusion
Through our discussions, we settled on two potential sources of confusion:
3
Statistical
Engineering
Statistics
Other
Analytic
Disciplines
 
How does Statistical Engineering
relate to Statistics?
 
How does Statistical Engineering
relate to other analytic
disciplines?
What do we say is Statistical Engineering?
 
Definition: 
The study of the systematic integration of statistical concepts, methods, and tools, often with other
relevant disciplines, to solve important problems sustainably. 
(ISEA Handbook)
What does this definition mean?
statistical concepts, methods, and tools
” - This field is inherently tied to the field of Statistics. 
What is the nature of this
relationship in light of the definition of Statistics?
often with other relevant disciplines
” - This field has the opportunity to be multi-disciplinary. 
What is the nature of this
field’s relationship to these other “relevant disciplines”? What exactly are these other “relevant disciplines”?
solve important problems sustainably” 
 This field is focused only on a certain class of problems. 
What makes a problem
important? Who determines the importance of the problem?
4
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Finding Ourselves
5
HOW DOES STATISTICAL
ENGINEERING RELATE TO
STATISTICS?
Statistical Engineering is to Statistics as
 
In the ISEA Handbook, 
Statistical Engineering
 and 
Statistics 
is compared to 
Chemical Engineering 
and 
Chemistry
.
At its core, this example is meant to evoke the relationship between a 
scientific
 
discipline and an 
engineering 
discipline.
So naturally, the next question is what makes a discipline/field a 
science
 
and what makes it an 
engineering 
discipline?
6
Science vs. Engineering
 
Science (as a discipline) is
A branch of 
knowledge
 
or study dealing with a body of facts or truths 
systematically
 
arranged and showing the operation of
general laws
” (Dictionary.com)
A department of 
systematized knowledge
 
as an object of study
” (Merriam-Webster)
A 
systematic
 
enterprise that builds and organizes 
knowledge
 
in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the
universe
” (Wikipedia)
So, a science discipline is one that 
systematically acquires knowledge
 
about a particular subject.
Engineering (as a discipline) is
The art or science of 
making practical application 
of the knowledge of the pure sciences
” (Dictionary.com)
The 
application
 
of science and mathematics by which properties of matter and the sources of energy in nature are 
made useful 
to
people
” (Merriam-Webster)
[The 
application
 
of] mathematics and sciences
to 
find novel solutions 
to problems or 
improve existing solutions
” (Wikipedia)
So, an engineering discipline 
practically applies scientific knowledge to solve problems
.
7
Engineering vs. Application
If an engineering discipline is all about 
application
, what makes it different from an 
applied 
discipline?
The word “engineering” comes from the Latin word “ingenium”, meaning “cleverness”
The term is meant to evoke a “creative” solution as opposed to a straightforward one.
One could argue then the following distinction:
If the problem is 
well defined
 such that 
the solution can be quickly derived using standard techniques with minimal
effort
, then it is an 
applied solution.
If the problem is 
not well defined
 or is of such nature that 
the solution can only be derived through creative use of known
techniques
, then it is an 
engineering solution.
Since Statistical Engineering is meant to address the difficult and not well defined problems, it is appropriate to
think of it as an “engineering” discipline.
8
An Illustrative Example
9
Hi! I am a Chemist.
I
Research the properties of
elementary forms of
matter. (Dictionary.com)
Investigate the
transformations of
substances. (Merriam-
Webster)
Study the compositions of
atoms and molecules.
(Wikipedia)
Hi! I am a Chemical Engineer.
I
Apply chemical knowledge to
industrial processes.
(Dictionary.com, Merriam-
Webster)
Use the principles of
chemistry and other fields to
efficiently produce and
transform energy and
materials. (Wikipedia)
Science vs. Engineering
10
We’ll use the following table to visualize the distinction between science and engineering and help us
determine where Statistics should go.
What about Statisticians?
11
Hi! I am a Statistician.
I
Research how to use
mathematics to impose
order and regularity on
aggregates of disparate
elements.
(Dictionary.com)
Develop new tools for
analyzing and collecting
data.
Hi! I am a Statistician.
I
Study how best to collect,
analyze, interpret, and
present large quantities of
data. (Merriam-Webster,
Wikipedia)
Often work with subject
matter experts from other
fields to solve their
problems with data-driven
solutions.
Science vs. Engineering
12
 
Let’s see what happens as we explore the
different placement options for Statistics
If Statistics is primarily an Engineering Field
13
 
If this is the appropriate placement, then
If Statistics is already an Engineering Field, what need is there for a new discipline? Do we just need better
training as Statisticians?
If Statistics is both a Science & Engineering
Field
14
It fits into our table like this:
 
If this is the appropriate placement then
We have the same questions as before.
 
 
then where does Statistical Engineering fit?
If Statistics is primarily a Science
15
 
If this is the appropriate placement, then
Should Statisticians whose primary work consists of consulting and application rebrand themselves as
“Statistical Engineers”?
Should Mathematical Statisticians drop the “Mathematical” part since their work is now just Statistics?
Same for Statistical Scientists, since that label is now redundant?
What exactly does the field of Statistics acquire knowledge about? What is the specific field of study now?
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Finding Our Place
HOW DOES STATISTICAL
ENGINEERING RELATE TO OTHER
ANALYTICS DISCIPLINES?
16
Statistical Engineering Diagram
Consider this diagram (originally designed by Dr. Geoff Vining):
17
 
What is the exact
nature of this
relationship?
Statistical Engineering as Collaboration
18
 
If Statistical Engineering is intended to solely 
collaborate 
with other
analytics fields then
Statistical Engineering is yet another analytics discipline with its own
advantages and disadvantages.
It can partner with and “borrow” tools from other disciplines to solve complex
problems.
What is it that we bring to the table? What do we provide that the other
disciplines do not?
A great illustration is a case study from the ISEA webinar series.
Leo C.E. Huberts and Ronald J.M.M. Does (University of Amsterdam) 
“Statistical Engineering and Machine Learning: A Case Study to Predict Student
Success or Failure.”
In the talk, two statistical methods were compared to a relativistic neural
network; “statistical engineering” and “machine learning” each treated as
distinct fields from one another.
Statistical Engineering as Consolidation
19
 
If Statistical Engineering is intended to 
consolidate 
other
analytics fields then
Statistical Engineering is an attempt to unite all other analytics
disciplines into one overarching discipline.
Other disciplines simply become “specialties” for a Statistical
Engineer.
Is it fair to call this consolidated field “Statistical Engineering”,
a term clearly favoring one discipline over the others?
Wouldn’t a more general term be appropriate?
Statistical Engineering
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Clearing Confusion
WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE?
HOW DO WE GET THERE?
20
What Do We Want to Be?
 
Consensus exists among ISEA members that the intended purpose of the discipline is:
T
o teach students how better to apply statistical tools and techniques to generate sustainable solutions to complex problems.
T
o prepare practitioners to be better collaborators/consultants and influence decisions in their companies.
T
o integrate not only statistical concepts, but also concepts and methods from data science, information technology, business
acumen, etc.
T
o be practiced across a wide range of fields, including industry, biomedicine, business, and technology
.
What is the end goal of “Statistical Engineering”? The answer to this determines how we get there.
The original vision was to better prepare students for the complexities of “real-world” Statistical work. 
Is this still the sole
vision? Or has the vision been expanded?
We see at least three options going forward
21
How Do We Get There?
Option 1: Courses Only
22
 
Reasoning: 
Statistics is essentially a hybrid of science and engineering. Our focus should be on
developing and maintaining coursework that better prepares students for ”real-world” Statistical work.
This would include being familiar with techniques from other analytics disciplines.
 
Pros
 
This would be easier to accomplish than
defining a new field.
The vision of better prepared Statisticians
would quickly be achieved.
 
Cons
 
A new discipline will not be created.
No major change to the status quo.
How Do We Get There?
Option 2: Split Statistics
23
 
Reasoning: 
Statistics would really benefit from splitting and refining. The term Statistics should
represent the scientific focus while Statistical Engineering will cover the application focus. Training in
Statistical Engineering would include being familiar with techniques from other analytics disciplines.
 
Pros
 
The confusion of the difference between
Statistics and Statistical Engineering is
removed.
Statistics and Statistical Engineering follows a
similar history as Chemistry and Chemical
Engineering.
 
Cons
 
A new discipline would be created at the
expense of the old one.
Other organizations will need to be convinced
of the need for the split.
How Do We Get There?
Option 3: Level Up
24
 
Reasoning: 
While there are some differences among analytics disciplines, there is also a 
lot
 they have
in common. Uniting these disciplines under one field (“Analytical Engineering”, say) would help
practitioners wield the power of analytics more effectively.
 
Pros
 
All analytic disciplines, both current and new,
can easily be leveraged to work together.
The discipline name does not favor one over
the others. It expresses the common interest.
This discipline is wide-reaching in both
toolsets used and problems solved.
 
Cons
 
Statistical Engineering, in name and
definition, would change.
It would take tremendous work to unify
multiple disciplines under one banner.
Why Does This All Matter?
25
 
The key ideas behind the Statistical Engineering movement are vital in an increasingly data-driven
world.
As the movement grows and evolves, it is very important we are consistent and clear in our focus. If
not, we risk Statistical Engineering failing to develop.
The goal of this presentation is to present thought-provoking questions and suggestions that shed
light on areas of confusion and help guide the continued evolution of Statistical Engineering.
In short, we believe that ISEA and Statistical Engineering need to answer the following questions:
What is our value?
What is our scope?
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Thank You for
your time and consideration!
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Slide Note

A note regarding all the questions…Please don’t answer them as we go through. Just think about them. At the end, there will be time for discussion. There is currently a great deal of confusion regarding Statistical Engineering. Thinking deeper and different is really the only way to understand the confusion and maybe a solution. The questions are to drive us think deeper and different.

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Caleb and Lindsay King explore the definition and relationship of Statistical Engineering to Statistics and other analytic disciplines, aiming to clarify the field's identity and importance. They delve into potential sources of confusion and the nature of Statistical Engineering as a multi-disciplinary approach to solving sustainable problems.

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  1. 1 Statistical Engineering: Finding our Identity WHAT DO WE THINK IT IS? WHAT DO OTHERS THINK IT IS? WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO BE? For consideration. By Caleb & Lindsay King

  2. 2 Who Are We Exactly? After the 2nd ISEA Summit, it seemed there was still some lingering confusion regarding the new field of Statistical Engineering. This confusion seemed especially evident as I tried to discuss this new field with my wife. Caleb has a Ph.D. in Statistics and is practicing Statistician. Lindsay has a Masters in Applied Mathematics and works as an IT Project Management Consultant. This presentation is the result of evening discussions over several weeks trying to understand the confusion.

  3. 3 Potential Sources of Confusion Through our discussions, we settled on two potential sources of confusion: How does Statistical Engineering relate to Statistics? How does Statistical Engineering relate to other analytic disciplines? Other Analytic Disciplines Statistical Engineering Statistics

  4. 4 What do we say is Statistical Engineering? Definition: The study of the systematic integration of statistical concepts, methods, and tools, often with other relevant disciplines, to solve important problems sustainably. (ISEA Handbook) What does this definition mean? statistical concepts, methods, and tools - This field is inherently tied to the field of Statistics. What is the nature of this relationship in light of the definition of Statistics? often with other relevant disciplines - This field has the opportunity to be multi-disciplinary. What is the nature of this field s relationship to these other relevant disciplines ? What exactly are these other relevant disciplines ? solve important problems sustainably This field is focused only on a certain class of problems. What makes a problem important? Who determines the importance of the problem?

  5. 5 HOW DOES STATISTICAL ENGINEERING RELATE TO STATISTICS? Finding Ourselves

  6. 6 Statistical Engineering is to Statistics as In the ISEA Handbook, Statistical Engineering and Statistics is compared to Chemical Engineering and Chemistry. At its core, this example is meant to evoke the relationship between a scientificdiscipline and an engineering discipline. So naturally, the next question is what makes a discipline/field a scienceand what makes it an engineering discipline? to Google!!

  7. 7 Science vs. Engineering Science (as a discipline) is A branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws (Dictionary.com) A department of systematized knowledge as an object of study (Merriam-Webster) A systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe (Wikipedia) So, a science discipline is one that systematically acquires knowledge about a particular subject. Engineering (as a discipline) is The art or science of making practical application of the knowledge of the pure sciences (Dictionary.com) The application of science and mathematics by which properties of matter and the sources of energy in nature are made useful to people (Merriam-Webster) [The application of] mathematics and sciences to find novel solutions to problems or improve existing solutions (Wikipedia) So, an engineering discipline practically applies scientific knowledge to solve problems.

  8. 8 Engineering vs. Application If an engineering discipline is all about application, what makes it different from an applied discipline? The word engineering comes from the Latin word ingenium , meaning cleverness The term is meant to evoke a creative solution as opposed to a straightforward one. One could argue then the following distinction: If the problem is well defined such that the solution can be quickly derived using standard techniques with minimal effort, then it is an applied solution. If the problem is not well defined or is of such nature that the solution can only be derived through creative use of known techniques, then it is an engineering solution. Since Statistical Engineering is meant to address the difficult and not well defined problems, it is appropriate to think of it as an engineering discipline.

  9. 9 An Illustrative Example Hi! I am a Chemist. Hi! I am a Chemical Engineer. I I Research the properties of elementary forms of matter. (Dictionary.com) Investigate the transformations of substances. (Merriam- Webster) Study the compositions of atoms and molecules. (Wikipedia) Apply chemical knowledge to industrial processes. (Dictionary.com, Merriam- Webster) Use the principles of chemistry and other fields to efficiently produce and transform energy and materials. (Wikipedia)

  10. 10 Science vs. Engineering We ll use the following table to visualize the distinction between science and engineering and help us determine where Statistics should go. Science: Engineering: Systematic Acquisition of Knowledge Systematic Application of Knowledge Chemistry Chemical Engineering

  11. 11 What about Statisticians? Hi! I am a Statistician. Hi! I am a Statistician. I I Study how best to collect, analyze, interpret, and present large quantities of data. (Merriam-Webster, Wikipedia) Often work with subject matter experts from other fields to solve their problems with data-driven solutions. Research how to use mathematics to impose order and regularity on aggregates of disparate elements. (Dictionary.com) Develop new tools for analyzing and collecting data.

  12. 12 Science vs. Engineering Science: Engineering: Systematic Acquisition of Knowledge Systematic Creative Application of Knowledge Chemistry Chemical Engineering Where should Statistics go? Let s see what happens as we explore the different placement options for Statistics

  13. 13 If Statistics is primarily an Engineering Field Science: Engineering: Systematic Acquisition of Knowledge Systematic Creative Application of Knowledge Chemistry Chemical Engineering Probability theory? Mathematics? Statistics (a.k.a. ProbabilityEngineering ??) If this is the appropriate placement, then If Statistics is already an Engineering Field, what need is there for a new discipline? Do we just need better training as Statisticians?

  14. 14 If Statistics is both a Science & Engineering Field It fits into our table like this: Science: Engineering: Systematic Acquisition of Knowledge Systematic Creative Application of Knowledge Chemistry Chemical Engineering Statistics (Statistical Science/Statistical Practice) then where does Statistical Engineering fit? If this is the appropriate placement then We have the same questions as before.

  15. 15 If Statistics is primarily a Science Science: Engineering: Systematic Acquisition of Knowledge Systematic Creative Application of Knowledge Chemistry Chemical Engineering Statistics then Statistical Engineering might fit nicely here If this is the appropriate placement, then Should Statisticians whose primary work consists of consulting and application rebrand themselves as Statistical Engineers ? Should Mathematical Statisticians drop the Mathematical part since their work is now just Statistics? Same for Statistical Scientists, since that label is now redundant? What exactly does the field of Statistics acquire knowledge about? What is the specific field of study now?

  16. 16 HOW DOES STATISTICAL ENGINEERING RELATE TO OTHER ANALYTICS DISCIPLINES? Finding Our Place

  17. 17 Statistical Engineering Diagram Consider this diagram (originally designed by Dr. Geoff Vining): Soft Skills Team Building Collaboration SME Knowledge Better, Faster Solutions to Complex Problems What is the exact nature of this relationship? Statistical Engineering: Strategy and Tactics General Analytic Fields (i.e. Statistics, Data Science, Business Analytics) Industrial Analytic Fields (i.e. Industrial Systems Engineering, Operations Research, M&S) Non-Analytic Fields (i.e. Organizational and Behavioral Psychology) Tools

  18. 18 Statistical Engineering as Collaboration If Statistical Engineering is intended to solely collaborate with other analytics fields then Statistical Engineering is yet another analytics discipline with its own advantages and disadvantages. Statistical Engineering Operations Research It can partner with and borrow tools from other disciplines to solve complex problems. What is it that we bring to the table? What do we provide that the other disciplines do not? Data Science Business Analytics A great illustration is a case study from the ISEA webinar series. Leo C.E. Huberts and Ronald J.M.M. Does (University of Amsterdam) Statistical Engineering and Machine Learning: A Case Study to Predict Student Success or Failure. In the talk, two statistical methods were compared to a relativistic neural network; statistical engineering and machine learning each treated as distinct fields from one another.

  19. 19 Statistical Engineering as Consolidation If Statistical Engineering is intended to consolidate other analytics fields then Statistical Engineering Statistical Engineering is an attempt to unite all other analytics disciplines into one overarching discipline. Other disciplines simply become specialties for a Statistical Engineer. Business Analytics Data Science Is it fair to call this consolidated field Statistical Engineering , a term clearly favoring one discipline over the others? Wouldn t a more general term be appropriate? Operations Research

  20. 20 WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE? Clearing Confusion HOW DO WE GET THERE?

  21. 21 What Do We Want to Be? Consensus exists among ISEA members that the intended purpose of the discipline is: To teach students how better to apply statistical tools and techniques to generate sustainable solutions to complex problems. To prepare practitioners to be better collaborators/consultants and influence decisions in their companies. To integrate not only statistical concepts, but also concepts and methods from data science, information technology, business acumen, etc. To be practiced across a wide range of fields, including industry, biomedicine, business, and technology. What is the end goal of Statistical Engineering ? The answer to this determines how we get there. The original vision was to better prepare students for the complexities of real-world Statistical work. Is this still the sole vision? Or has the vision been expanded? We see at least three options going forward

  22. 22 How Do We Get There? Option 1: Courses Only Reasoning: Statistics is essentially a hybrid of science and engineering. Our focus should be on developing and maintaining coursework that better prepares students for real-world Statistical work. This would include being familiar with techniques from other analytics disciplines. Pros Cons This would be easier to accomplish than defining a new field. A new discipline will not be created. No major change to the status quo. The vision of better prepared Statisticians would quickly be achieved.

  23. 23 How Do We Get There? Option 2: Split Statistics Reasoning: Statistics would really benefit from splitting and refining. The term Statistics should represent the scientific focus while Statistical Engineering will cover the application focus. Training in Statistical Engineering would include being familiar with techniques from other analytics disciplines. Pros Cons The confusion of the difference between Statistics and Statistical Engineering is removed. A new discipline would be created at the expense of the old one. Other organizations will need to be convinced of the need for the split. Statistics and Statistical Engineering follows a similar history as Chemistry and Chemical Engineering.

  24. 24 How Do We Get There? Option 3: Level Up Reasoning: While there are some differences among analytics disciplines, there is also a lot they have in common. Uniting these disciplines under one field ( Analytical Engineering , say) would help practitioners wield the power of analytics more effectively. Pros Cons All analytic disciplines, both current and new, can easily be leveraged to work together. Statistical Engineering, in name and definition, would change. The discipline name does not favor one over the others. It expresses the common interest. It would take tremendous work to unify multiple disciplines under one banner. This discipline is wide-reaching in both toolsets used and problems solved.

  25. 25 Why Does This All Matter? The key ideas behind the Statistical Engineering movement are vital in an increasingly data-driven world. As the movement grows and evolves, it is very important we are consistent and clear in our focus. If not, we risk Statistical Engineering failing to develop. The goal of this presentation is to present thought-provoking questions and suggestions that shed light on areas of confusion and help guide the continued evolution of Statistical Engineering. In short, we believe that ISEA and Statistical Engineering need to answer the following questions: What is our value? What is our scope?

  26. 26 Thank You for your time and consideration!

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