Panel Discussion on Principles of Engagement in European Open Science Cloud
Panel discussion on Principles of
Engagement
Andrew Smith, ELIXIR
Tallinn, 2 October 2017
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Short intro and scene setting (Andrew Smith)
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Initial statement from each panel member, addressing
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Yannick Legré, EGI
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Ari Asmi, ICOS ERIC
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Damien, Lecarpentier, EUDAT
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Bob Jones, Cern
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Francoise Genova, Strasbourg Astronomical Data Centre CDS
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Open discussion
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Wrap-up
www.eoscpilot.eu
The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the
European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563
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How is access to your services provided currently? For
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What are the rules/principles around using those services?
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Are there legal/financial/ethical/organisational bottlenecks
that would hinder your participation as a service provider in
EOSC?
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Do different service types (for example, cloud, training,
databases, interoperability) require different Principles of
Engagement?
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How can cost-recovery be managed, especially for access to
services provided in a different country to where
researchers are based?
www.eoscpilot.eu
The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the
European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563
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Legal, ethical, financial and organisational
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Balance the needs of ‘users’ with ‘service providers’
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Rules of Engagement recommendations that fit the ‘collective’
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How high do we want to set the barrier to
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High, ie, small number of potential service providers?
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Low, open market for all?
www.eoscpilot.eu
The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the
European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563
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Wide but shallow review potential Service providers, based
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Domain specific RIs, including ESFRIs and EiroForum orgs
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Commercial vendors (ie AWS)
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Other initiatives bound by Charter
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Deeper analysis of smaller number of potential Service
providers, e.g.
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EGI, PRACE, GEANT, OpenAire
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ELIXIR, SeaDataNet
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www.eoscpilot.eu
The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the
European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563
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Large variation in the services provided
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Large variation in organisation type and permanence of the
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Large variation in how they integrate service providers
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Large variation in how the services run by providers are
evaluated and monitored
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Large variation in pricing policy
www.eoscpilot.eu
The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the
European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563
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www.eoscpilot.eu
The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the
European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563
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andrew.smith@elixir-europe.org
A discussion panel at ELIXIR Tallinn in 2017 focused on principles of engagement in the European Open Science Cloud. The panel addressed various questions around service access, rules and barriers to participation, aiming to align recommendations with the vision of EOSC. Topics included service provision, legal and ethical considerations, and managing cost recovery across countries.
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Panel discussion on Principles of Engagement Andrew Smith, ELIXIR Tallinn, 2 October 2017
Format of panel discussion Format of panel discussion Short intro and scene setting (Andrew Smith) Initial statement from each panel member, addressing particular questions Yannick Legr , EGI Ari Asmi, ICOS ERIC Damien, Lecarpentier, EUDAT Bob Jones, Cern Francoise Genova, Strasbourg Astronomical Data Centre CDS Open discussion Wrap-up The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563 www.eoscpilot.eu 2
Questions to panel Questions to panel How is access to your services provided currently? For users, how do you access the services you require? What are the rules/principles around using those services? Are there legal/financial/ethical/organisational bottlenecks that would hinder your participation as a service provider in EOSC? Do different service types (for example, cloud, training, databases, interoperability) require different Principles of Engagement? How can cost-recovery be managed, especially for access to services provided in a different country to where researchers are based? The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563 www.eoscpilot.eu 3
Rules of Engagement Rules of Engagement considerations considerations The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563 www.eoscpilot.eu 4
Understanding barriers to participation Understanding barriers to participation Legal, ethical, financial and organisational Balance the needs of users with service providers Rules of Engagement recommendations that fit the collective vision of EOSC How high do we want to set the barrier to participation? High, ie, small number of potential service providers? Low, open market for all? The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563 www.eoscpilot.eu 5
WP2 WP2 PoE PoE- - Steps so far Steps so far Wide but shallow review potential Service providers, based on public documentation e-Infras Domain specific RIs, including ESFRIs and EiroForum orgs Commercial vendors (ie AWS) Other initiatives bound by Charter Deeper analysis of smaller number of potential Service providers, e.g. EGI, PRACE, GEANT, OpenAire ELIXIR, SeaDataNet The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563 www.eoscpilot.eu 6
Findings so far Findings so far a story of variation a story of variation Large variation in the services provided Large variation in organisation type and permanence of the infrastructure/project Large variation in how they integrate service providers Large variation in how the services run by providers are evaluated and monitored Large variation in pricing policy The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563 www.eoscpilot.eu 7
andrew.smith@elixir-europe.org The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no. 739563 www.eoscpilot.eu 8
