Dealing with Dyed Diesel: Methods, Risks, and Consequences
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D
YED
D
IESEL
F
RAUD
It’s a Crime!
D
IESEL
P
LACE
W
EBSITE
I was messing around the other day with some
red
diesel
and was trying to remove or hide the red. I
would much rather remove it so as not to raise
questions as to why my fuel is black or something.
But anyways I tried to hide it with 2 stroke oil and I
concluded that it would take way too much to do this.
I know that some people use waste oil to hide it and
there is no way that I am going to do this because I
personally think it's bad.
So I just want to know if anybody has tried or heard
of any other ways to remove the red.. and preferably
not an expensive way as that will completley
defeat
the purpose of buying red in the first place.
Share
R
EPLY
I 'heard' that leaving it out in the sun (open) will
cause the dye to leave.
I have no idea if it is true.
Be careful in the rain.
R
EPLY
I once read in the local paper that a gallon of
sulfuric acid would settle the dye out of an entire
tanker truck of fuel and that there were
wholesalers doing it to make the extra bucks
when selling it to retailers. Not sure I would
want that acid in my fuel system, but it might be
an interesting experiment.
$$ T
EXAS
, 2013
Tax is $ 0.20 per gallon
Fourth largest source of revenue
$3.2 billion
Used for state highway fund
D
YED
D
IESEL
Untaxed
Used for off road only
Tax exemption value is $260 million annually
(TX)
E
VASION
S
CHEMES
Misuse
Saving 20 cents a gallon matters to some people.
Many farms have a dyed bulk tank.
Farm pickups often carry a tank to resupply
tractors or cultivators.
D
YE
R
EMOVAL
Its not easy, but it is possible.
Leaving it open in the sun works
State patrol and IRS can test for dye.
D
YE
MASKING
Add oil to make it black
“additive”
“recycling old oil”
I
LLEGAL
I
MPORTATION
In international border states, diesel may be
illegally brought in.
N
EBRASKA
I
LLEGAL
I
MPORTING
Fuel transport picks up fuel in Nebraska to be
delivered in a lower tax state.
Delivers it in Nebraska.
N
EBRASKA
C
ARRIER
E
NFORCEMENT
32 full time state patrol do fuel checks
Generally about 25 – 40 per month per man
2013 9,346 tanks checked, 49 violations
2012 9,611 tanks checked, 41 violations
E
NFORCEMENT
D
ISCRETION
Checks are done at weigh stations or safety
checks
Checks may result from reliable eye witnesses
Checks mainly result from violations
Traffic infractions
Regulatory violations (over height, weight, spilling
load, missing IFTA or DOT insignia)
C
OLEMAN
V
S
TATE
EX
REL
. M
ONTANA
DOT
Coleman operates a cattle ranch near Charlo, Montana.
Coleman was driving his 1999 International Harvester
truck between feedlots and armland on U.S. Highway 212.
The truck had been modified with the addition of a feedbox,
hoist and tailgate attached to it. The truck was not licensed
or registered. Joseph Lavadure, a Montana Department of
Transportation (MDOT) Officer, stopped Coleman and
found the fuel was dyed diesel fuel.
Coleman argued his vehicle is designed for agricultural
work and bears physical characteristics that render its
primary use off-road and off-highway. He claimed that he is
entitled to a special exemption from the prohibition against
dyed fuel on the public roadways. MDOT countered that
the vehicle is designed to transport persons or property on
the public roads and that its physical characteristics do not
demonstrate it is intended for primary use in an off-road
manner.
Coleman v. State ex rel. Montana Dept. of Transp., 298
P.3d 426, 369 Mont. 350, 2013 MT 80 (Mont. 2013)
P
ENALTIES
Administrative: IRS $1000 minimum; Nebraska
$250 minimum
Criminal/civil penalties as well
D
IESEL
P
LACE
W
EBSITE
I was messing around the other day with some
red
diesel
and was trying to remove or hide the red. I
would much rather remove it so as not to raise
questions as to why my fuel is black or something.
But anyways I tried to hide it with 2 stroke oil and I
concluded that it would take way too much to do this.
I know that some people use waste oil to hide it and
there is no way that I am going to do this because I
personally think it's bad.
So I just want to know if anybody has tried or heard
of any other ways to remove the red.. and preferably
not an expensive way as that will completley
defeat
the purpose of buying red in the first place.
Share
R
EPLY
Anything's posible. It prly cost more to clear it
than to just pay the tax.
Learn about methods used to remove or mask dyed diesel, including risks and legal implications. Explore strategies like leaving it in the sun, sulfuric acid treatment, and adding oil. Discover the impact on taxes, evasion schemes, and the complexities of handling dyed diesel fuel.
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DYED DIESEL FRAUD It s a Crime!
DIESEL PLACE WEBSITE I was messing around the other day with some red diesel and was trying to remove or hide the red. I would much rather remove it so as not to raise questions as to why my fuel is black or something. But anyways I tried to hide it with 2 stroke oil and I concluded that it would take way too much to do this. I know that some people use waste oil to hide it and there is no way that I am going to do this because I personally think it's bad. So I just want to know if anybody has tried or heard of any other ways to remove the red.. and preferably not an expensive way as that will completley defeat the purpose of buying red in the first place. Share
REPLY I 'heard' that leaving it out in the sun (open) will cause the dye to leave. I have no idea if it is true. Be careful in the rain.
REPLY I once read in the local paper that a gallon of sulfuric acid would settle the dye out of an entire tanker truck of fuel and that there were wholesalers doing it to make the extra bucks when selling it to retailers. Not sure I would want that acid in my fuel system, but it might be an interesting experiment.
$$ TEXAS, 2013 Tax is $ 0.20 per gallon Fourth largest source of revenue $3.2 billion Used for state highway fund
DYED DIESEL Untaxed Used for off road only Tax exemption value is $260 million annually (TX)
EVASION SCHEMES Misuse Saving 20 cents a gallon matters to some people. Many farms have a dyed bulk tank. Farm pickups often carry a tank to resupply tractors or cultivators.
DYE REMOVAL Its not easy, but it is possible. Leaving it open in the sun works State patrol and IRS can test for dye.
DYE MASKING Add oil to make it black additive recycling old oil
ILLEGAL IMPORTATION In international border states, diesel may be illegally brought in.
NEBRASKA ILLEGAL IMPORTING Fuel transport picks up fuel in Nebraska to be delivered in a lower tax state. Delivers it in Nebraska.
NEBRASKA CARRIER ENFORCEMENT 32 full time state patrol do fuel checks Generally about 25 40 per month per man 2013 9,346 tanks checked, 49 violations 2012 9,611 tanks checked, 41 violations
ENFORCEMENT DISCRETION Checks are done at weigh stations or safety checks Checks may result from reliable eye witnesses Checks mainly result from violations Traffic infractions Regulatory violations (over height, weight, spilling load, missing IFTA or DOT insignia)
COLEMAN V STATE EX REL. MONTANA DOT Coleman operates a cattle ranch near Charlo, Montana. Coleman was driving his 1999 International Harvester truck between feedlots and armland on U.S. Highway 212. The truck had been modified with the addition of a feedbox, hoist and tailgate attached to it. The truck was not licensed or registered. Joseph Lavadure, a Montana Department of Transportation (MDOT) Officer, stopped Coleman and found the fuel was dyed diesel fuel. Coleman argued his vehicle is designed for agricultural work and bears physical characteristics that render its primary use off-road and off-highway. He claimed that he is entitled to a special exemption from the prohibition against dyed fuel on the public roadways. MDOT countered that the vehicle is designed to transport persons or property on the public roads and that its physical characteristics do not demonstrate it is intended for primary use in an off-road manner. Coleman v. State ex rel. Montana Dept. of Transp., 298 P.3d 426, 369 Mont. 350, 2013 MT 80 (Mont. 2013)
PENALTIES Administrative: IRS $1000 minimum; Nebraska $250 minimum Criminal/civil penalties as well
DIESEL PLACE WEBSITE I was messing around the other day with some red diesel and was trying to remove or hide the red. I would much rather remove it so as not to raise questions as to why my fuel is black or something. But anyways I tried to hide it with 2 stroke oil and I concluded that it would take way too much to do this. I know that some people use waste oil to hide it and there is no way that I am going to do this because I personally think it's bad. So I just want to know if anybody has tried or heard of any other ways to remove the red.. and preferably not an expensive way as that will completley defeat the purpose of buying red in the first place. Share
REPLY Anything's posible. It prly cost more to clear it than to just pay the tax.
