Connecting Love, Wisdom, and Use in Modern Physics
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… and connecting with modern physics.
Love-Wisdom-Use
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A common pattern of influx: from Swedenborg
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It can be seen in many places, spiritual & natural:
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Spirit, mind and nature.
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Celestial, Spiritual and Spiritual-natural heavens – in
spiritual.
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Loving, thinking, and acting – in mind (mental)
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Principles, causes and events – in natural physics.
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Each of these has love-wisdom-use
within
itself
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DLW 79: “Divine is the same in things greatest and
least”. Each reacts according to its nature.
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So: Triad(3) → Ennead(9)
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Degrees and sub-degrees. And sub-sub-degrees too!
All of these sub/degrees are
related by influx
:
Downward/rightward production
selected according to previous actions.
Influx produces
correspondences
between structures and functions.
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Natural sub-degrees.
Should be related to physics!
But no longer spiritual, but in nature (natural)
.
So let us rename more as ‘natural’:
Swedenborg LJP 320:
The
three natural atmospheres arising from the sun of the world
are
1)
the purer ether, which is the universal atmosphere, from which springs all
gravity
;
2)
the intermediate ether, which forms a vortex around the planets and surrounds the
moon and other satellites, from which springs
magnetism
; and
3)
the lowest ether, which is
air
.
Swedenborg
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Relation to quantum physics!
So let us rename more as ‘natural’:
Influx into nature
Swedenborg AC 7270[4]:
God's truth, which flows into the third heaven nearest to the Lord, at the same time flows right
down into the last and lowest degrees of order as well, without undergoing consecutive degrees of
formation.
Every single thing at that level is also directly governed and provided by Him who is the First.
In this way the consecutive degrees are held together in their proper order and connection.
Let us separate ‘making spacetime’ (by
immediate
influx)
from the individual ‘ends’ that come by
mediated
influx through created spirits.
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The Divine
Divine Influx
1. Spiritual Beings in Grand Man
immediate
Mediated?
(particular)
Immediate
Divine Influx
Physical
things
(ultimates)
AC 5850
they receive particular
influx; that is, there are
with them angels and
spirits through whom
the influx comes.
2. Our mind
(setting up the framework
to receive mediated influx)
Immediate = first step
Mediated = later step
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Sub-sub-degrees too!
Previous:
From DLW 79: “Divine is the same in things greatest
and least”, expect sub-sub-degrees of all of these:
3.3 = ordinary quantum mechanics. 3.2 = quantum field theory. 3.1 = ? unknown
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Quantum physics
we understand
3.2 degree is physics of
electromagnetic fields
•
Also gluon fields
•
Generates forces that act between 3.3 individual objects
•
By principles of “Quantum Field Theory” (QFT)
•
Determined by ’Lagrangian’ with given couplings constants.
3.3 degree is physics of
individual objects
•
Molecules, atoms, nuclei, quarks, etc.
•
Seemingly well understood:
•
By wave functions in quantum physics.
•
By forces on masses in classical physics.
•
‘Measurement problem’ still a puzzle. But only small effects.
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A difference between 3.2 and 3.3:
‘bare’ and ‘dressed’ interactions
•
There are input masses, charges
•
3.2.1/QFT
uses ‘bare interactions’
•
3.3.1/QM
uses ‘dressed interactions’: combined effects of all possible events.
•
QFT gives the
result
of calculations for QM: must give
measured
mass & charge.
Need to adjust bare interactions so
dressed charge
agrees with experiment.
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3.2:
Individual
events
‘bare’.
3.2 for 3.3:
Complex
Events
‘dressed’.
‘Dressing’ changes the total
strength of the interaction:
charge is effectively changed.
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‘Renormalization’: an issue in QFT
•
Question! How do we ‘adjust’?
How do we know what ‘bare charge’ to put in Lagrangian in 3.2.1
in order to get the correct ‘dressed charge’ in 3.3.1?
•
‘Renormalization’: method invented in QFT:
(a) Do calculation is at fixed resolution.
(b) Vary bare parameters to get physical dressed as in expt
•
This seems to work remarkably well!
Results found to be not sensitive to the chosen ‘fixed’ resolution as long as it
was fine enough. Very accurate predictions made and seen in experiments.
•
But Nature has to use with fixed inputs,
even if fluctuations at the finest level (e.g at Planck length).
How could it work?
•
Maybe
there ’fine tuning’ which adjusts inputs to give the regularly
observed outputs?
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Physics we do
not
understand
3.1 degree of gravity ??
•
Big debate for last 90 years on how to link the gravity of Einstein’s
“General Relativity” with quantum physics.
•
Can we formulate ‘quantum gravity’? No luck so far.
•
Still no explanation for the very low vacuum energy density
3.1 degree for ‘fine tuning’ parameters in QFT ??
•
QFT does not deliver ‘out of the box’, input values adjustable:
•
“Renormalized parameters” have to be fine-tuned to observed
values, to fix:
•
Higgs mass (a hard problem)
•
Quark masses, electron mass, unit charge (a bit easier)
3.1 linking the spiritual with the natural ??
•
No-one trying that yet ! Should we try? After lunch.
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Triads to Enneads, exploring the pattern of influx from spiritual to natural realms, with a connection to modern physics and a deep dive into the relationship between love, wisdom, and use at different levels of existence.
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From Triads Triads to Enneads Enneads (3) (9) and connecting with modern physics. Ian Thompson www.ianthompson.org
Love-Wisdom-Use A common pattern of influx: from Swedenborg It can be seen in many places, spiritual & natural: Spirit, mind and nature. Celestial, Spiritual and Spiritual-natural heavens in spiritual. Loving, thinking, and acting in mind (mental) Principles, causes and events in natural physics. Each of these has love-wisdom-use within itself DLW 79: Divine is the same in things greatest and least . Each reacts according to its nature. Ian Thompson 2
So: Triad(3) Ennead(9) 1. Love 2. Wisdom 3. Use 3 1.1 Love for love itself 2.1 Wisdom about love 3.1 Use from love 1.2 Love for wisdom 2.2 Wisdom about wisdom 3.2 Use from wisdom 9 1.3 Love for use 2.3 Wisdom about use 3.3 Use as use itself. Internal mind (spirit) External mind (every day) Natural world Degrees and sub-degrees. And sub-sub-degrees too! All of these sub/degrees are related by influx: Downward/rightward production selected according to previous actions. Influx produces correspondences between structures and functions. Ian Thompson 3
Natural sub-degrees. Should be related to physics! 3.1 Use from love But no longer spiritual, but in nature (natural) . 3.2 Use from wisdom 3.3 Use from use Swedenborg 3.1 Action from ends Gravity So let us rename more as natural : 3.2 Action from form Magnetism 3.3 Ultimate action Air Swedenborg LJP 320: The three natural atmospheres arising from the sun of the world are 1) the purer ether, which is the universal atmosphere, from which springs all gravity; 2) the intermediate ether, which forms a vortex around the planets and surrounds the moon and other satellites, from which springs magnetism; and 3) the lowest ether, which is air. Ian Thompson 4
Relation to quantum physics! So let us rename more as natural : 3.1 Action from ends Making spacetime and its ends 3.2 Action from form Electromagnetic and quantum fields 3.3 Ultimate action Physics of objects (quantum & classical) Let us separate making spacetime (by immediate influx) from the individual ends that come by mediated influx through created spirits. Influx into nature Swedenborg AC 7270[4]: God's truth, which flows into the third heaven nearest to the Lord, at the same time flows right down into the last and lowest degrees of order as well, without undergoing consecutive degrees of formation. Every single thing at that level is also directly governed and provided by Him who is the First. In this way the consecutive degrees are held together in their proper order and connection. Ian Thompson 5
Immediate and Mediate Influx Immediate and Mediate Influx The Divine Divine Influx Divine Influx Immediate = first step Mediated = later step immediate Immediate 1. Spiritual Beings in Grand Man 2. Our mind AC 5850 they receive particular influx; that is, there are with them angels and spirits through whom the influx comes. Mediated? (particular) (setting up the framework to receive mediated influx) 3.1: Targets Physical things (ultimates) 3.2: Fields 3.3: Particles Ian Thompson 6
Sub-sub-degrees too! Previous: 3.1 Action from ends Making spacetime and its ends 3.2 Action from form Electromagnetic and quantum fields 3.3 Ultimate action Physics of objects (quantum & classical) From DLW 79: Divine is the same in things greatest and least , expect sub-sub-degrees of all of these: Principles Propagating causes Effects 3. 3.1.1 Reception of targets 3.1.2 Causes to arrange targets 3.2.2 Propagation of quantum fields for all future options 3.3.2 Quantum wave function 3.1.3 Arranged specific targets 3.2.3 Results of quantum fields 3.3.3 Actual selections e.g. Measurements 3.1 3.2.1 Lagrangian: Principles for quantum fields 3.2 3.3.1 Hamiltonian: kinetic + potential energies 3.3 3.3 = ordinary quantum mechanics. 3.2 = quantum field theory. 3.1 = ? unknown Ian Thompson 7
3.1 Action from ends Quantum physics we understand 3.2 Action from form 3.3 Ultimate action 3.2 degree is physics of electromagnetic fields Also gluon fields Generates forces that act between 3.3 individual objects By principles of Quantum Field Theory (QFT) Determined by Lagrangian with given couplings constants. 3.3 degree is physics of individual objects Molecules, atoms, nuclei, quarks, etc. Seemingly well understood: By wave functions in quantum physics. By forces on masses in classical physics. Measurement problem still a puzzle. But only small effects. Ian Thompson 8
A difference between 3.2 and 3.3: bare and dressed interactions 3.2.1 Lagrangian: Principles for quantum fields 3.3.1 Hamiltonian: kinetic + potential energies 3.2.3 Virtual events 3.3.3 Actual events There are input masses, charges 3.2.1/QFT uses bare interactions 3.3.1/QM uses dressed interactions : combined effects of all possible events. QFT gives the result of calculations for QM: must give measured mass & charge. 3.2: Individual events bare . 3.2 for 3.3: Complex Events dressed . Dressing changes the total strength of the interaction: charge is effectively changed. Need to adjust bare interactions so dressed charge agrees with experiment. Ian Thompson 9
Renormalization: an issue in QFT Question! How do we adjust ? How do we know what bare charge to put in Lagrangian in 3.2.1 in order to get the correct dressed charge in 3.3.1? Renormalization : method invented in QFT: (a) Do calculation is at fixed resolution. (b) Vary bare parameters to get physical dressed as in expt This seems to work remarkably well! Results found to be not sensitive to the chosen fixed resolution as long as it was fine enough. Very accurate predictions made and seen in experiments. But Nature has to use with fixed inputs, even if fluctuations at the finest level (e.g at Planck length). How could it work? Maybe there fine tuning which adjusts inputs to give the regularly observed outputs? Ian Thompson 10
3.1 Action from ends Physics we do not understand 3.2 Action from form 3.3 Ultimate action 3.1 degree of gravity ?? Big debate for last 90 years on how to link the gravity of Einstein s General Relativity with quantum physics. Can we formulate quantum gravity ? No luck so far. Still no explanation for the very low vacuum energy density 3.1 degree for fine tuning parameters in QFT ?? QFT does not deliver out of the box , input values adjustable: Renormalized parameters have to be fine-tuned to observed values, to fix: Higgs mass (a hard problem) Quark masses, electron mass, unit charge (a bit easier) 3.1 linking the spiritual with the natural ?? No-one trying that yet ! Should we try? After lunch. Ian Thompson 11
