Comparing Poems: Divorce and Keeping Orchids Analysis

 
Comparing Poems
The 8 Mark Question
 
‘Divorce’ and ‘Keeping
Orchids’ Example
 
The 8 
Mark
 Question
 
How to get the points:
Mention the specific area of commonality and include what
poem(s) you will be discussing. (2 marks)
Make a specific reference to the poem in front of you (quote)
and link to the question – mention techniques and effect. (2
marks)
Make a reference to another poem and link to the question –
again, mention techniques and their effect. (2 marks)
Make a reference to the other poem again and link to the
question – again, mention techniques and their effect. (2
marks)
 
You can do this in bullet points or paragraph form, but make sure
you use full sentences.
 
Choose at least one other poem by Kay that explores the
theme of family relationships. Show how the poet explores the
theme in Divorce and your chosen poem. (8 MARKS)
 
Marking Scheme
 
Identification of commonality (2):
(eg: theme, central relationship, importance of setting, use of imagery, development in characterisation,
use of personal experience, use of narrative style, or any other key element...)
 
From the extract (2):
1 x relevant reference to technique (1)
1 x appropriate comment (1)
OR
1 x relevant reference to idea (1)
1 x appropriate comment (1)
OR
1 x relevant reference to feature (1)
1 x appropriate comment (1)
OR
1 x relevant reference to text (1)
1 x appropriate comment (1)
(maximum of 2 marks only for discussion of extract)
 
from at least one other text/part of the text:
as above (x 2) for up to 4 marks (4)
 
 
Planning
 
Split your page in two and begin listing the main
themes and ideas of the two poems.
 
1.
Then go through your lists and highlight
similarities and differences between the two.
 
2.
Create a second list for the poetic techniques
we have explored.
 
Themes and Ideas
 
Divorce
Breakdown in idea of
family
Relationships between
parents and children
Daughter thinks she
has been treated
unfairly
Wants to ‘divorce’ or
leave parents
Has an
idealistic/unrealistic
image of parents
 
 
Keeping Orchids
Relationship between
mother and daughter
Adoption
Daughter wants to have a
relationship with her mother,
but they have difficulty
opening up.
Overall pessimistic idea of
family
Realises that her natural
mother has another
daughter/life without her
 
 
Language and Techniques
 
Divorce
Dramatic monologue
Persona of a young
child
Enjambment
Humorous tone
Loosely sonnet form
Dramatic, over the top
Metaphor creates
idealistic, OTT images
of family
Anger
 
Keeping Orchids
Persona of a mature woman
Transferred epithet
Enjambment
Serious tone
Controlled 2 stanza form
Controlled, lacking emotion
Symbolism of orchids
demonstrates the strained,
limited idea of family
Bitter at times
 
 
8 Mark Question
 
Using these plans write up a complete answer
for the 8 mark question.
 
Choose at least one other poem by Kay that
explores the theme of family relationships.
Show how the poet explores the theme in
Divorce and your chosen poem. (8 MARKS)
 
 
‘My Grandmother’s Houses’
This poem deals with a series of significant
moments and memories. Choose at least one
other poem that does this and show how Kay
makes her poems seem poignant to the reader.
(8 MARKS)
This poem deals with a 
series of significant
moments and memories
. Choose 
at least one
other poem
 that does this and show how Kay
makes her poems seem 
poignant
 to the reader.
(8 MARKS)
Something that
effects you deeply
 
8 Mark Question Plan
 
Copy and complete before writing out your proper answer.
Poem 1: ‘My Grandmother’s Houses’
Poem 2:
 
What do they have in common about how they show significant moments/memories?
(2 marks):
1.
2.
 
Poem 1: How does this poem deal with a significant moment/memory (2 marks).
Quote 1:
Explanation of how quote shows this:
(Explanation is crucial here, you don’t get a point for just quoting from this poem)
Poem 2: How does this poem deal with a significant moment/memory (4 marks)
Quote 1:
Explanation of how the quote shows this:
Quote 2:
Explanation of how the quote shows this:
 
Make sure that every point you make links back to the question.
Now properly write out your answer.
 
Homework: Folio
 
I still need to see a rough draft folio (personal
reflective) piece from some of you.  This is due on
Thursday 17
th
 December if I have not already provided
feedback for you.
 
Folio piece 2 will be written straight after the holiday.
It will be a discursive essay on the topic of your choice.
You will need to do your own research over the holiday
and bring it in to start writing.  You might want to start
this now.
Thursday 7
th
 of January is the deadline for folio
research.
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Explore the themes, language, and poetic techniques in the poems "Divorce" and "Keeping Orchids" by making references to specific excerpts and analyzing how the poets portray family relationships through different perspectives. Understand the commonalities and differences between the two poems in terms of tone, imagery, and characterization to gain insights into the complexities of family dynamics.

  • Poetry analysis
  • Family relationships
  • Poetic techniques
  • Themes
  • Comparison

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  1. Comparing Poems The 8 Mark Question Divorce and Keeping Orchids Example

  2. The 8 Mark Question How to get the points: Mention the specific area of commonality and include what poem(s) you will be discussing. (2 marks) Make a specific reference to the poem in front of you (quote) and link to the question mention techniques and effect. (2 marks) Make a reference to another poem and link to the question again, mention techniques and their effect. (2 marks) Make a reference to the other poem again and link to the question again, mention techniques and their effect. (2 marks) You can do this in bullet points or paragraph form, but make sure you use full sentences. Choose at least one other poem by Kay that explores the theme of family relationships. Show how the poet explores the theme in Divorce and your chosen poem. (8 MARKS)

  3. Marking Scheme Identification of commonality (2): (eg: theme, central relationship, importance of setting, use of imagery, development in characterisation, use of personal experience, use of narrative style, or any other key element...) From the extract (2): 1 x relevant reference to technique (1) 1 x appropriate comment (1) OR 1 x relevant reference to idea (1) 1 x appropriate comment (1) OR 1 x relevant reference to feature (1) 1 x appropriate comment (1) OR 1 x relevant reference to text (1) 1 x appropriate comment (1) (maximum of 2 marks only for discussion of extract) from at least one other text/part of the text: as above (x 2) for up to 4 marks (4)

  4. Planning Split your page in two and begin listing the main themes and ideas of the two poems. 1. Then go through your lists and highlight similarities and differences between the two. 2. Create a second list for the poetic techniques we have explored.

  5. Themes and Ideas Divorce Breakdown in idea of family Relationships between parents and children Daughter thinks she has been treated unfairly Wants to divorce or leave parents Has an idealistic/unrealistic image of parents Keeping Orchids Relationship between mother and daughter Adoption Daughter wants to have a relationship with her mother, but they have difficulty opening up. Overall pessimistic idea of family Realises that her natural mother has another daughter/life without her

  6. Language and Techniques Divorce Dramatic monologue Persona of a young child Enjambment Humorous tone Loosely sonnet form Dramatic, over the top Metaphor creates idealistic, OTT images of family Anger Keeping Orchids Persona of a mature woman Transferred epithet Enjambment Serious tone Controlled 2 stanza form Controlled, lacking emotion Symbolism of orchids demonstrates the strained, limited idea of family Bitter at times

  7. 8 Mark Question Using these plans write up a complete answer for the 8 mark question. Choose at least one other poem by Kay that explores the theme of family relationships. Show how the poet explores the theme in Divorce and your chosen poem. (8 MARKS)

  8. My Grandmothers Houses This poem deals with a series of significant moments and memories. Choose at least one other poem that does this and show how Kay makes her poems seem poignant to the reader. (8 MARKS) (8 MARKS) This poem deals with a series of significant moments and memories. Choose at least one other poem that does this and show how Kay makes her poems seem poignant to the reader. Something that effects you deeply

  9. 8 Mark Question Plan Copy and complete before writing out your proper answer. Poem 1: My Grandmother s Houses Poem 2: What do they have in common about how they show significant moments/memories? (2 marks): 1. 2. Poem 1: How does this poem deal with a significant moment/memory (2 marks). Quote 1: Explanation of how quote shows this: (Explanation is crucial here, you don t get a point for just quoting from this poem) Poem 2: How does this poem deal with a significant moment/memory (4 marks) Quote 1: Explanation of how the quote shows this: Quote 2: Explanation of how the quote shows this: Make sure that every point you make links back to the question. Now properly write out your answer.

  10. Homework: Folio I still need to see a rough draft folio (personal reflective) piece from some of you. This is due on Thursday 17th December if I have not already provided feedback for you. Folio piece 2 will be written straight after the holiday. It will be a discursive essay on the topic of your choice. You will need to do your own research over the holiday and bring it in to start writing. You might want to start this now. Thursday 7th of January is the deadline for folio research.

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