
802.24 Vertical Applications TAG
Overview of the January 2017 IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG meeting in Atlanta, GA, USA. Includes agenda items, officer roles, session details, and guidelines for IEEE-SA meetings.
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Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG January 2017 Meeting Atlanta, GA, USA Submission Slide 1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 802.24 Overview Officers TAG Chair: Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Task Groups 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG 802.24.2 IoT TG 34 Voting Members Agenda: 24-17-0001-01-0000 Meetings for the Week Monday PM2 Tuesday PM2 Wednesday PM2 (2nd hour to join with 802.1 TSN) Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members Tim Godfrey Ben Rolfe Tim Godfrey Chris DiMinico Submission Slide 2
Agenda - 24-17-0001-00-0000 Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 802.24 Agenda - January 2017, Atlanta, GA, USA 24-17-0001-01-0000 1 Monday PM2 session 1.1 Godfrey 5 4:00 PM Call session to order, present Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings , Quorum 1.2 Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda Godfrey 5 4:05 PM 1.3 Introduction/meeting objectives Godfrey 5 4:10 PM 1.4 Approve November TAG minutes 24-16-0035-00-0000 Godfrey 5 4:15 PM 1.5 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group Godfrey 0 4:15 PM 1.6 Review action items from previous meeting Godfrey 5 4:20 PM 1.7 ITU and regulatory items Discuss Liaison Relationship with OpenMobileAlliance regarding management objects and models for 802 Godfrey/Holomb 10 4:30 PM 1.8 Godfrey 15 4:45 PM 1.9 IEEE 802 5G Roadmap Godfrey 4:45 PM 1.10 Updating SGIP PAP2 Wireless Matrix Godfrey 30 5:15 PM 1.11 Recess Godfrey 0 5:15 PM 2 Tuesday PM2 session 2.1 Call to Order DiMinico 0 4:00 PM 2.2 802.24.2 IoT Task Group business DiMinico 0 4:00 PM 2.3 20 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report Diab 4:00 PM 2.4 20 P2413 Liaison Report Winkel 4:20 PM 2.5 Review and plan IoT white paper development DiMinico 45 0 4:40 PM 2.6 Recess DiMinico 5:25 PM 3 Wednesday PM2 session 3.1 Call to Order Godfrey 0 4:00 PM 3.2 Liaison Report from P2030.5 Heile 10 4:10 PM 3.3 Liaison Report from PES PSCC Godfrey 15 4:20 PM 3.4 802.24 closing - action items, plans Godfrey 10 4:35 PM 3.5 Meet with 802.1 TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization Godfrey / Parsons 60 5:00 PM 3.6 Adjourn 0 6:00 PM Submission Slide 3 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt March 2015 IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Administration Attendance take on IMAT Reciprocal rights for most WGs Web page http://www.ieee802.org/24 Mailing list stds-802-24@listserv.ieee.org 802-24-voters@listserv.ieee.org (voters list) Document archive http://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/documents IEEE 802 announcement reflector, stds-802-all@listserv.ieee.org Send email to listserv@listserv.ieee.org with no subject and with the following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message Subscribe stds-802-all end Submission Slide 5 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve November minutes 24-16-00035-00-0000 TAG Action Items: None Submission Slide 6 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Monday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Submission Slide 7 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 ITU and Radio Regulatory Items Item 1: Question 236 Draft revision of Report ITU-R SM.2351-0 Complete Item 2: Potential follow up on beam forming wireless power transfer at 2450 MHz. No action needed. Any other items from regulatory? Including coexistence of license exempt technologies with licensed services. 60 GHz bands not of concern currently 802.24 can liaison with 802.18 in reviewing document and forming a response. No regulatory items related to 802.24 currently known. January Update Nothing on 802.18 s agenda related to smart grid or IoT. FCC put out an NOI on 5th Gen cyber-security. Submission Slide 8 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 IEEE 802 5G Roadmap Paul Nikolich is participating in the IEEE 5G initiative as the SA and Computer Society representative. One of the tasks is to help lead the development of a Standards Roadmap. What does '5G related' mean? I've defined it as follows: Industry standards activities (within a ~5 year range initially) that map into three major 'next gen network (aka 5g)' usage scenarios: a) Enhanced Mobile Broadband, b) Ultra-reliable and low latency communications, c) Massive machine type communications. Each WG and TAG was asked to draft a paragraph Submission Slide 9 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 IEEE 802 5G Roadmap - Draft paragraph for 802.24 The 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG focuses on application categories that use IEEE 802 technology and are of interest to multiple IEEE 802 WGs. It develops white papers, presentations and other documents that describe the use of 802 standards in vertical applications. Currently, the TAG addresses the vertical application areas of Smart Grid and IoT. Both of these areas have strong alignment with Next Generation or 5G networks. Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI) is a prime example of massive machine type communications, with networks connecting millions of smart meters. Utilities currently operate control networks that provide ultra-reliable and low latency communications for SCADA and protection. These industries will have a strong interest in Next Generation networks that will provide additional options and performance improvements. Standards that enable flexible deployment and operation on both private infrastructure and commercial networks are particularly important. IEEE 802 standards support Smart Grid and IoT with different degrees of optimization for ultra-reliable and low latency communications and massive machine type communications. The 802.24 TAG will continue to address these applications as "next gen network" standards are developed. Submission Slide 10 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Update of PAP2 Wireless Matrix History: Latest version 802.24-13-0021r1 Update Focus on updating the spreadsheet, and then align with ITU Q236. 3GPP has update the table for GSM and LTE into their response to question 236 802.24 can forward updates to SGIP, and request inclusion updated COS Group consensus is to pursue an update to ITU, in the style of the 3GPP revision in document SP-160507_SMART_GRID.doc. There is no urgency to initiate an effort within SGIP for NISTIR 7761 at this time. Requires external coordination beyond the scope of 802.24 Wireless Matrix Update Topic Farroukh will check into which document was provided by 3GPP. Document to WP1a (under review). On Smart Grid. Further updating standards for Q 236. Our last submission was accepted without changes. It was not on November agenda, and not an open issue that needs action. There is no current opportunity to update. SGIP Study Group has been formed for NISTIR 7761 update, we will provide updated matrix for 802 standards. Submission Slide 11 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Update Plan Identify most recent version of matrix Assess gaps and errors Assign owners for updating (in coordination with WGs) 802.16 column Tim Godfrey, Harry Bims. Remove 16m Add 16s, as it is expected to be completed before SGIP updates. 802.11ah need reviewer (Yongho?) 802.15.4 column (Ruben Salazar) Reviewed by group and updated in January meeting 802.22 Column received from Apurva Any drafts listed in matrix need to be publically available. Submission Slide 12 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Notes on Editing Y23: Need to determine spectral efficiency and formula Submission Slide 13 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Sub-1GHz White Paper Publishing / Distribution Coordinate with IEEE Smart Grid Web Pages Submission Slide 14 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Publicizing White Paper Releases Press Releases Standards association newsletter External press releases Emulate what 802.1, 802.3 are doing External publications, conferences, etc Liaison reports to WGs Include relevant details from external liaisons Expand liaisons to 802.1 and 802.3 Submission Slide 15 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Monday 802.24.2 IoT TG Submission Slide 16 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Tuesday: 802.24.2 Did not meet Submission Slide 17 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Wednesday Submission Slide 18 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Submission Slide 19 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Wednesday Items P2030.5 Liaison Update (Bob Heile) No activity since November 2016 report Discussion on IoT White Paper Draft 24-15-36r1 Liaison Update from PES PSCC TSN White Paper Planning Closing / action items Adjourn to 802.1 for TSN discussion 5:00 Buckhead Ballroom II Action for January find volunteers in 802.1 for drafting team Submission Slide 20 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 802.24 White paper on TSN Ethernet operation to provide time bounded or deterministic services. How can this be applied in utility applications? Substation networks Interconnection between LAN and WAN The requirement comes from specific applications: Starting point was Audio/Video, and industrial automation, and now entering automotive Now the TSN capability is application agnostic Automotive is an emerging application replace CAN, Flexray, etc. There is also ring topology for redundancy Questions: Is utility protection application considered for TSN? Today there is some use of proprietary real-time Ethernet variants. GOOSE protocols Synchrophasor applications Submission Slide 21 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 PSCC Liaison Report The PES PSRC and Substation SCC have been reorganized and will become the PSCC (Power Systems Communications and Cybersecurity) committee. (Effective Jan 2017) I attended the PSCC meeting and met with the leadership. Chair: Mike Dood (Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories) Vice Chair: Ken Fodero (Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories) Secretary: Craig Preuss (Black and Veatch) Established liaison between PSCC and 802.24 / 802.1 PSCC will provide review and comments on TSN white paper (and further activities in their scope) PSCC is interested in know about relevant activities in IEEE802 would like a short report after 802 Plenaries. Submission Slide 22 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Power Systems Communication and Cyber Security Committee Subcommittee P P1 Precision Time Protocol P2 Electric Power Systems Communications Distributed Network Protocol (DNP3) P3 Exchanging information between networks implementing IEC 61850 and IEEE Std 1815 (DNP3) P5 Recommended Practice for Network Communications in Substations (P1516) P6 Configuring Ethernet LAN Infrastructure P7 Review of C37.94 (Optical Fiber Interfaces Between Teleprotection and Multiplexer Equipment) P8 Standard mapping between C37.118 and IEC 61850- 90-5 P11 Transitioning to Cloud Computing, SDN, and NFV at electric power utilities Revision of IEEE Std profile for the use of IEEE 1588 Submission Slide 23 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Power Systems Communication and Cyber Security Committee Subcommittee S S2 Serial SCADA Protection Protocol (P1711.1) Interoperability of IPSEC within utility control systems Secure SCADA Communication Protocol (P1711.2) Extensions to Cyber Security Requirements for substations P&C Systems S3 S4 S5 Submission Slide 24 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 PSRC (Power Systems Relaying and Control Committee) H Subcommittee Relay Communications Subcommittee H11 Synchrophasor Standards Working Group H32 Performance Requirements for teleprotection over Ethernet HTF41 Revision of IEEE 1646 Communications Delivery time performance requirements Submission Slide 25 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Plans for TSN white paper IEC TC 57 Collaboration TSN specified in 61850 through IEC IPV6 is also being adopted into 61850 OPC Foundation, ODBA are adopting TSN (and also use 61850) IEC TC57 is developing profiles for use of TSN. Profiles for application domains. Submission Slide 26 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Outline of TSN white paper Describe why TSN is needed in a utility Define what realtime means in the context of specific grid use cases and applications Describe how TSN works Don t focus on the standards themselves, but focus on basic capabilities. Goal of low latency vs maximum worst case latency, and leading to zero congestion loss. A new optimization, compared to best-effort packet world. It is not just low latency, but bounded, deterministic worst case latency. That enables the application. Shifting paradigm from acting on the packet to acting when the packet says to act. Secondarily, ability to guard against equipment failure. Informational material : 802.1Qbu, 802.3br, 802.1Qbv, 802.1Qat, 802.1Qca, CB, Qcc, Qch, Qci, Qcn, Qcr, AEcg Discuss 802.1CM and BA, as an example of industry profiles for the use of TSN Understand IEC 61850 activities and relationships How standardized APIs are integrated into 61850 What is the set used for grid applications? Relate to IEC TC57 Profiles Harmonization of TC65 (automation) with TC57 profiles Explain relationships to time synchronization in 802.1AS Profiles of IEEE 1588 Relationship to IETF DETNET DETNET works over a routed network. What is the opportunity for wireless standards to leverage? DETNET could take advantage. Submission Slide 27 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Next Steps How to collaborate between meetings Use both 802.1 reflector and 802.24 reflector Initial Draft Tim will post previous slide as document on 802.24 Mentor, and post a link on the reflectors. Text contributions to the outline are requested Submission Slide 28 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 802.24 TAG closing Capture action Items from this meeting Tim will post Reminder for contribution on IoT Ludwig will post Word version 24-15-36r1 Any New Business? Adjourn Submission Slide 29 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Submission Slide 30 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Future Opportunities Tracking (1) 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413? Maybe more towards completion of P2413? Agnostic to underlying communications, but applicable to all 802 standards. Highlight the relationship between P2413 and 802 standards. Submission Slide 31 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Future Opportunities Tracking (2) 802.15.12 ULI Eventually, we can explain how it relates to the rest of 802, and better integration. Well defined ways of integrating. Take this up when there is a draft 802.15.4s SMR spectrum management resources Can 802.24 provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT? IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems ETSI TCERM WG 41 defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum. Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS Coordinate with 802.22.3 Action Plan: Coordinate with ULI initiative 4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished. Including use of metrics for management. Submission Slide 32 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Future Opportunities Tracking (3) Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to 802.24? Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards serve, and provide them to the industry. That can then define who is an appropriate liaison Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify the tools we have available, and present the available toolbox. Submission Slide 33 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Jan 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00002r2 Other Future Opportunities Monitor the LPWAN IG in 802.15 to see where it goes (and links to IETF) Submission Slide 34 Tim Godfrey, EPRI