Guidance on Choosing Leaving Certificate Subjects for Academic and Career Success

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PRESENTATION ON SUBJECT
CHOICE FOR LEAVING
CERTIFICATE
 
Clonakilty Community College
Ger Murphy
Guidance Counsellor
 
 
SUBJECT CHOICE
 
 
A good subject choice will
 
Ensure the student has the necessary subjects for
entry to relevant 3
rd
 level courses
Include the subjects at which the student has
excelled in Junior Cycle
Greatly benefit the chances of a enjoyable Senior
Cycle and a successful Leaving Cert for the
student.
 
 
All Three Subjects (3)
Irish 
(Except for those with exemptions)
English
Maths
 
 
OPTIONAL SUBJECTS – CHOOSE 4
 
French
Physics
Chemistry
Biology
Agricultural Science
Art
Geography
History
Business
Accounting
 
Construction Studies
(known as Woodwork for
JC)
Engineering 
(known as
Metalwork for JC)
Design and
Communication Graphics
(
known as Tech Graph for JC)
 
 
LCVP (Link Modules)
 
IN LCVP, STUDY IN CLASS WILL INCLUDE
 
PREPARATION FOR THE WORLD OF WORK
Students will research and investigate local employment opportunities,
develop job seeking skills such as letter writing, CV presentation, interview
techniques; gain valuable practical experience of the world of work;
interview and work shadow a person in a career area that interests them.
 
ENTERPRISE EDUCATION
Students will be involved in organising visits to local business and community
enterprises; meet and interview enterprising people on site and in the
classroom; plan and undertake interesting activities that will build self–
confidence, creativity, initiative and develop teamwork, communication
and computer skills.
 
STUDENTS ALSO TYPE UP A PORTFOLIO TO INCLUDE,
 
Curriculum Vitae – Career Investigation – Enterprise/Action Plan –
Summary Report – Diary of Work Experience – Recorded Interview
  
WRITTEN EXAM 40% (MAY), PORTFOLIO 60%
 
LEAVING CERTIFICATE PROGRAMME
 
Subject Levels
Higher and Ordinary level 
 
all subjects.
 
+ Foundation level 
Mathematics & Irish.
 
Particular care needs to be taken with Mathematics.  Failure
in this subject can be detrimental to overall L.C.
 
GENERAL ADVICE
 
If students are not really
sure what they want to
do in the future:
 
Pick a broad range of
subjects in order to
keep options open
 
Many students will
change their minds
about their future a
number of times in the
next 2 years
 
E.g.
one 
language
one 
science
one 
business
one 
humanities /
applied science
This combination would
allow access into a
broad range of
courses/careers.
 
FACTORS INFLUENCING SUBJECT CHOICE
 
ENSURING GOOD SUBJECT
CHOICE
 
Discuss subject choice with your son/daughter
Students are advised and shown how to do as
much research as possible – not all do
Do as much research yourself – excellent
resources available
Be realistic – if a student did not like or excel at
a subject at JC why would that change at LC
 
NEW SUBJECTS
 
It is desirable that, if a student picks a subject for
LC they would have taken it to JC. If they have
not studied it previously they may be at a
considerable disadvantage.
However, it can be possible to do it for LC – it
depends on the subject. The best advice would
be to speak to the subject teacher.
 
THE NATIONAL
QUALIFICATIONS
FRAMEWORK
 
FURTHER
FURTHER
 EDUCATION
 EDUCATION
 
 
APPLY TO POST LEAVING CERT COURSES
(YOU APPLY DIRECTLY TO COLLEGE) eg. 
ST.
JOHN’S COLLEGE, COLLEGE OF COMMERCE, KINSALE COLLEGE
OF FURTHER EDUCATION
 
APPLY TO COURSES THROUGH THE CAO
(CENTRAL APPLICATIONS OFFICE)
UNIVERSITIES AND INSTITUTES OF
TECHNOLOGY 
eg. 
UCC, CIT, UL, TRINITY, ETC
 
 
OPTIONS AFTER LEAVING CERT
HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS
 
(HEI’S)
 
45 Higher Education Institutions
(HEI’s) covering Universities,
Institutes of Technology (IoT’s), Art
Colleges, Specialist Colleges and
some Private Colleges (Colleges
not covered by the Free Fees
Scheme)
Applications administered by CAO
Examples are UCC, CIT, UL, WIT
 
ENTRY REQUIREMENTS
 
 
When choosing Leaving Certificate subjects great care must be
taken as the choices of subjects made now may determine 3rd
level and career options in 2 years time.
 
Students can make the mistake when choosing their subjects of
not picking subjects they may specifically need later
 
Good subject choice allows students to keep options open when
other factors have been taken into account such as interest,
ability, likelihood of wanting to pursue a course after school
 
Regardless of how many points a student gets in the LC, they will
be ineligible to even apply for a course if they have not met it’s
“Course Entry Requirements”
 
ENTRY TO
HIGHER EDUCATION
3 FACTORS
 
Minimum Entry
Requirements
 
 
 
Specific Entry
Requirements (may
also involve
interviews,
portfolios etc)
 
 
 
Points
 
MINIMUM
ENTRY
REQUIREMENTS
 
There are Minimum Entry
Requirements to be met for all
HEIs.
Most of these revolve around the
core subjects of Irish, English,
Maths and a modern continental
language
 
Even within HEIs these differ, so it
is important to check them out
on the college websites
For example, generally for
universities and honours degrees
elsewhere, you need 2 H5 (that is
at least two subjects over 50%  in
Higher Level  papers) and at
least 4 O6/H7 (that is at least 4
40% in Ordinary Level papers) to
in some cases include Irish,
English, Maths and another
language.
 
SUBJECT REQUIRED FOR ENTRY INTO NUI COLLEGES
       (EXEMPTIONS)
 
NOT REQUIRED FOR NURSING IN ANY OF THE UNIVERSITIES.
 
NOT REQUIRED FOR ENGINEERING AND SCIENCE DEGREES
 
IoT’s (LEVEL 6 and 7) DO NOT GENERALLY REQUIRE CONTINENTAL
LANGUAGE
 
UL WILL ACCEPT IRISH AND OR CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE
 
 
 
 
 
CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE (FRENCH)
 
MINIMUM ENTRY REQUIREMENTS OF
MAJOR CAO COLLEGES
 
ONE LABORATORY SCIENCE SUBJECT NEEDED FOR MOST
SCIENCE/HEALTHCARE RELATED COURSES
 
MUST BE BIOLOGY FOR
HUMAN HEALTH AND DISEASE (TCD)
GENETICS (UCC)
ADVISABLE FOR NURSING
 
MUST BE CHEMISTRY FOR
DENTISTRY (UCC)
HUMAN NUTRITION AND DIETETICS (DIT)
MEDICINE (UCC)
PHARMACY (UCC and TCD)
VETERINARY MEDICINE (UCD)
ADVISABLE FOR ALL MEDICINE
 
 
SCIENCE SUBJECTS
 
APPLIANCE OF SCIENCE
 
OTHER
SUBJECTS
SPECIFIC
ENTRY
REQUIREMENTS
 
THE POINTS
SYSTEM
 
Only when the Minimum
and Specific Entry
Requirements have been
met do points
accumulated in the
Leaving Cert come into
play to decide who gets
a place on a course
The best 
SIX
 results in 
one
sitting of the Leaving Cert
Exam will be counted for
points purposes
 
IMPORTANT POINTS
 
Technical Drawing/Construction Studies
are not needed to do Engineering.  Maths
and Physics are more important.
Art is generally not needed for Art and
Design courses.  A portfolio is needed
however.
For Business courses, Maths is generally a
requirement rather than Business subjects.
Music courses require an audition, not the
subject
General subjects like History, Geography
can be studied without doing for LC
 
RESOURCES TO ASSIST IN SUBJECT
CHOICE
 
www.qualifax.ie
 
(click on students, then subject choice, then
on minimum requirements and also choosing a career)
www.careersportal.ie
 
(very comprehensive)
Any of the college websites such as 
www.ucc.ie
  
www.cit.ie
www.ul.ie
   
www.csn.ie
 
,etc.
 
The above and such other sites will give specific information on
Third Level courses
 
Last years Points can be found in these websites also or also on
www.cao.ie
 
Information on the % of grades awarded in each subject is
available on 
www.examinations.ie
 
and gives access to past
exam papers
www.curriculumonline.ie
 
(allows you to see what is involved in
the LC subject)
 
FINAL
ADVICE ON
SUBJECT
CHOICE
 
Do the research – this is hugely important
 
Remember that ultimately everyone wants
the student to get the best possible results
in their Leaving Cert so bear this in mind
 
Be realistic about ability and possible
future course and career choice
 
Closing date for options is March 18
th
 2021
 
Once Y5 begins, students should try and
stick with a subject and give it their best as
too much uncertainty and indecision may
be detrimental in the long term
 
HOW TO TELL US YOUR SUBJECT
CHOICE
 
Go to 
www.clonakiltycc.ie
Click on VSware icon
Go to Student Options
Click on the box next to each number below
and a drop down menu of subjects will appear.
Choose 6 in order of preference
When complete – 
Options Completed 
will
appear.
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Ensuring a good subject choice for the Leaving Certificate is crucial for future academic endeavors and career opportunities. Students should consider their strengths from Junior Cycle, choosing mandatory subjects like Irish, English, and Maths. Optional subjects offer a range of choices from French to Construction Studies, with the option of including LCVP for practical work experience and enterprise education. Careful consideration should be given to subject levels, particularly in Mathematics. Valuable advice is provided for students uncertain about their future path.


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  1. Clonakilty Community College Ger Murphy Guidance Counsellor PRESENTATION ON SUBJECT CHOICE FOR LEAVING CERTIFICATE

  2. SUBJECT CHOICE A good subject choice will Ensure the student has the necessary subjects for entry to relevant 3rdlevel courses Include the subjects at which the student has excelled in Junior Cycle Greatly benefit the chances of a enjoyable Senior Cycle and a successful Leaving Cert for the student.

  3. All Three Subjects (3) Irish (Except for those with exemptions) English Maths

  4. OPTIONAL SUBJECTS CHOOSE 4 French Physics Chemistry Biology Agricultural Science Art Geography History Business Accounting Construction Studies (known as Woodwork for JC) Engineering (known as Metalwork for JC) Design and Communication Graphics (known as Tech Graph for JC) LCVP (Link Modules)

  5. IN LCVP, STUDY IN CLASS WILL INCLUDE PREPARATION FOR THE WORLD OF WORK Students will research and investigate local employment opportunities, develop job seeking skills such as letter writing, CV presentation, interview techniques; gain valuable practical experience of the world of work; interview and work shadow a person in a career area that interests them. ENTERPRISE EDUCATION Students will be involved in organising visits to local business and community enterprises; meet and interview enterprising people on site and in the classroom; plan and undertake interesting activities that will build self confidence, creativity, initiative and develop teamwork, communication and computer skills. STUDENTS ALSO TYPE UP A PORTFOLIO TO INCLUDE, Curriculum Vitae Career Investigation Enterprise/Action Plan Summary Report Diary of Work Experience Recorded Interview WRITTEN EXAM 40% (MAY), PORTFOLIO 60%

  6. COMMON POINTS SCALE Higher Or Ordinary? ?

  7. LEAVING CERTIFICATE PROGRAMME Subject Levels Higher and Ordinary level all subjects. + Foundation level Mathematics & Irish. Particular care needs to be taken with Mathematics. Failure in this subject can be detrimental to overall L.C.

  8. GENERAL ADVICE If students are not really sure what they want to do in the future: E.g. one language one science one business one humanities / applied science This combination would allow access into a broad range of courses/careers. Pick a broad range of subjects in order to keep options open Many students will change their minds about their future a number of times in the next 2 years

  9. FACTORS INFLUENCING SUBJECT CHOICE 1 2 3 4 5 6 WHAT SUBJECTS DO STUDENTS ENJOY (THEY WILL WORK BEST AT THESE SUBJECTS) ABILITY AND APTITUDE IN THE SUBJECT IS THE SUBJECT NECESSARY FOR A COURSE ENTRY AT THIRD LEVEL? FRIENDS/ PARENTS/ SIBLINGS, ETC PERCEIVED AS EASY OR HARD LIKES/DISLIKES THE TEACHER (NOT A GOOD REASON)

  10. ENSURING GOOD SUBJECT CHOICE Discuss subject choice with your son/daughter Students are advised and shown how to do as much research as possible not all do Do as much research yourself excellent resources available Be realistic if a student did not like or excel at a subject at JC why would that change at LC

  11. It is desirable that, if a student picks a subject for LC they would have taken it to JC. If they have not studied it previously they may be at a considerable disadvantage. However, it can be possible to do it for LC it depends on the subject. The best advice would be to speak to the subject teacher. NEW SUBJECTS

  12. THE NATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS FRAMEWORK

  13. FURTHER EDUCATION APPLY TO POST LEAVING CERT COURSES (YOU APPLY DIRECTLY TO COLLEGE) eg. ST. JOHN S COLLEGE, COLLEGE OF COMMERCE, KINSALE COLLEGE OF FURTHER EDUCATION APPLY TO COURSES THROUGH THE CAO (CENTRAL APPLICATIONS OFFICE) UNIVERSITIES AND INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY eg. UCC, CIT, UL, TRINITY, ETC

  14. OPTIONS AFTER LEAVING CERT HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS(HEI S) 45 Higher Education Institutions (HEI s) covering Universities, Institutes of Technology (IoT s), Art Colleges, Specialist Colleges and some Private Colleges (Colleges not covered by the Free Fees Scheme) Applications administered by CAO Examples are UCC, CIT, UL, WIT

  15. ENTRY REQUIREMENTS When choosing Leaving Certificate subjects great care must be taken as the choices of subjects made now may determine 3rd level and career options in 2 years time. Students can make the mistake when choosing their subjects of not picking subjects they may specifically need later Good subject choice allows students to keep options open when other factors have been taken into account such as interest, ability, likelihood of wanting to pursue a course after school Regardless of how many points a student gets in the LC, they will be ineligible to even apply for a course if they have not met it s Course Entry Requirements

  16. ENTRY TO HIGHER EDUCATION 3 FACTORS Minimum Entry Requirements Specific Entry Requirements (may also involve interviews, portfolios etc) Points

  17. There are Minimum Entry Requirements to be met for all HEIs. Most of these revolve around the core subjects of Irish, English, Maths and a modern continental language MINIMUM ENTRY REQUIREMENTS Even within HEIs these differ, so it is important to check them out on the college websites For example, generally for universities and honours degrees elsewhere, you need 2 H5 (that is at least two subjects over 50% in Higher Level papers) and at least 4 O6/H7 (that is at least 4 40% in Ordinary Level papers) to in some cases include Irish, English, Maths and another language.

  18. CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE (FRENCH) SUBJECT REQUIRED FOR ENTRY INTO NUI COLLEGES (EXEMPTIONS) NOT REQUIRED FOR NURSING IN ANY OF THE UNIVERSITIES. NOT REQUIRED FOR ENGINEERING AND SCIENCE DEGREES IoT s (LEVEL 6 and 7) DO NOT GENERALLY REQUIRE CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE UL WILL ACCEPT IRISH AND OR CONTINENTAL LANGUAGE

  19. MINIMUM ENTRY REQUIREMENTS OF MAJOR CAO COLLEGES Institution Minimum grades Required subjects NUI Colleges: UCD, NUIM, NUIG, RCSI, 2 H5 + 4 O6/H7 O6 in English, Irish & Modern Language*. UCC 2 H5 + 4O6/H7 O6 in English, Irish & Modern language* Trinity College Dublin 3 H5 + 3 O6 O6 in Maths, English & another Language Dublin City University 2 H5 + 4 O6/H7 O6 in Maths, English or Irish University of Limerick 2 H5 + 4 O6/H7 O6 in Maths, English & Irish or another Lang. Cork Institute of Technology 2 H5 + 4 O6/H7 (H.D.) 5 O6 (O.D. or H.C.) O6 in Maths, English or Irish Institutes of Technology (L 8) (L6/7) 2 H5 + 4 O6/H7 (H.D.) 5 O6 (O.D. or H.C.) O6 in Maths, English or Irish

  20. SCIENCE SUBJECTS ONE LABORATORY SCIENCE SUBJECT NEEDED FOR MOST SCIENCE/HEALTHCARE RELATED COURSES MUST BE BIOLOGY FOR HUMAN HEALTH AND DISEASE (TCD) GENETICS (UCC) ADVISABLE FOR NURSING MUST BE CHEMISTRY FOR DENTISTRY (UCC) HUMAN NUTRITION AND DIETETICS (DIT) MEDICINE (UCC) PHARMACY (UCC and TCD) VETERINARY MEDICINE (UCD) ADVISABLE FOR ALL MEDICINE

  21. APPLIANCE OF SCIENCE Leaving Certificate Science Subjects in order of importance to college subject 2 COLLEGE SUBJECTS 1 3 Biology Chemistry Mathematics BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES Biology Agriculture Horticulture Marine Biology Chemistry Mathematics Physics CHEMICAL SCIENCES Chemistry Chem. Engineering PHYSICAL SCIENCES Biochemistry Medicinal Chem. Physics Mathematics Chemistry Physics Electronics Astronomy Computing Mathematics Physics Chemistry ENGINEERING Civil Aeronautical Mechanical Electrical Chemistry Biology Physics MEDICAL SCIENCES Pharmacy Opthalmic Optics MEDICINE / DENTISTRY Nursing Nutrition Chemistry Physics Biology Medicine Vet. Medicine Dentistry British Association for the Advancement of Science

  22. BUSINESS, ACCOUNTING, HISTORY, GEOGRAPHY, DCG, ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE Generally NOT REQUIRED for basic ENTRY for most courses BUT DESIRABLE if intending to study at Third Level OTHER SUBJECTS SPECIFIC ENTRY REQUIREMENTS CHECK THEM OUT on www.qualifax.ie (useful tools - minimum entry subjects) www.qualifax.ie ART AND MUSIC- Again generally NOT REQUIRED as basic entry requirement even if intending to study at Third Level BUT PORTFOLIO (ART) or COMPETENCE TEST (MUSIC) required for entry to Third Level Courses

  23. Only when the Minimum and Specific Entry Requirements have been met do points accumulated in the Leaving Cert come into play to decide who gets a place on a course THE POINTS SYSTEM The best SIX results in one sitting of the Leaving Cert Exam will be counted for points purposes

  24. IMPORTANT POINTS Technical Drawing/Construction Studies are not needed to do Engineering. Maths and Physics are more important. Art is generally not needed for Art and Design courses. A portfolio is needed however. For Business courses, Maths is generally a requirement rather than Business subjects. Music courses require an audition, not the subject General subjects like History, Geography can be studied without doing for LC

  25. RESOURCES TO ASSIST IN SUBJECT CHOICE www.qualifax.ie (click on students, then subject choice, then on minimum requirements and also choosing a career) www.careersportal.ie (very comprehensive) Any of the college websites such as www.ucc.ie www.cit.ie www.ul.ie www.csn.ie ,etc. The above and such other sites will give specific information on Third Level courses Last years Points can be found in these websites also or also on www.cao.ie Information on the % of grades awarded in each subject is available on www.examinations.ie and gives access to past exam papers www.curriculumonline.ie (allows you to see what is involved in the LC subject)

  26. Do the research this is hugely important Remember that ultimately everyone wants the student to get the best possible results in their Leaving Cert so bear this in mind FINAL Be realistic about ability and possible future course and career choice ADVICE ON SUBJECT CHOICE Closing date for options is March 18th 2021 Once Y5 begins, students should try and stick with a subject and give it their best as too much uncertainty and indecision may be detrimental in the long term

  27. Go to www.clonakiltycc.ie Click on VSware icon Go to Student Options Click on the box next to each number below and a drop down menu of subjects will appear. Choose 6 in order of preference When complete Options Completed will appear. HOW TO TELL US YOUR SUBJECT CHOICE

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