Physics & Astronomy at AHC

 
Rob Jorstad
STEM Week of Discovery
August 9, 2023
 
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Physics & Astronomy at AHC
Physics
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https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/physicists-and-astronomers.htm#tab-1
 
GOOD
 
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Yikes!
Physics
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https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/physicists-and-astronomers.htm#tab-4
https://www.aps.org/careers/guidance/webinars/upload/Careers-Talk.pdf,  salary info from multiple source including Zip Recruiter, UC Merced, APS, etc
 
If you want jobs in academia or research
Courses in calculus, linear algebra, stats
Computer science typically useful
Get a Bachelor’s degree (4 years)
Get a Ph.D. (6 years, paid $25k + all school expenses)
Often require 1 or more post-docs (2-6 years, paid $65k)
That’s 12-16 years before getting paid $150k…
 
What can you do with a Bachelor’s degree?
Technician or assistant in related fields
Engineering
Computer science
Data Science
K-12 Teaching
Some government jobs
Average starting at $60k but ranges wildly
Out perform pre-meds on MCAT 
(source: APS, 2015)
Out perform pre-law on LSAT 
(source: APS, 2015)
Physics
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https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/physicists-and-astronomers.htm#tab-4
“Important Qualities” to be
Successful in Physics & Astronomy
 
Analytical skills
Evaluate work (your own & other’s) to avoid errors
Communication skills
Present to the public and write technical reports
Critical-thinking skills
Determine if results & conclusions are accurate using logic
Interpersonal skills
Collaborate and work well with team members & colleagues
Math skills
Use calculus, algebra, geometry, & “other areas of math”
Problem-solving skills
Observe & analyze carefully. “For example, they may need to
redesign their approach and find alternatives when an
experiment of theory fails to produce the desired result.”
Self-discipline
Stay motivated & “focus on large data sets for long periods”
 
 
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https://www.cmu.edu/student-success/other-resources/fast-facts/succeed-in-physics.pdf
 
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From Carnegie Mellon  https://www.cmu.edu/student-success/other-resources/fast-
facts/succeed-in-physics.pdf
 
Physics builds upon itself
Put in time doing problems when the material is easy
or you’ll be behind when it gets difficult.
Understand conceptually
Formulas will only help if you understand how/when/why to apply
them.  
Then
 reach for the calculator…
BEFORE
 class
Read or watch lecture vids and have materials ready.
With some knowledge base, more will stick from lecture.
DURING class
Sit front & center for best viewing angles (and forced engagement).
Ask if something makes no sense (it happens daily).
AFTER class
Review your notes to see if you actually understand/remember.
Practice until you puke…and then practice some more.
Talk about things with others (other students, tutors, instructor)
 
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From U Waterloo  https://uwaterloo.ca/campus-wellness/curve-forgetting
 
% of
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From U Waterloo  https://uwaterloo.ca/campus-wellness/curve-forgetting
 
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You forget if you don’t practice.
It is more fun & efficient to practice with a group
When you explain to others, you understand more.
When you are forced to articulate a question, you learn more.
 
Why have a
study group?
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Come in prepared on day 1
Come early on 1
st
 lab day
Read book & watch lectures
Start homework early
Avoid excessive reliance on
solutions
 
Get a good 2-6 person study
group (no flakes)
Go to office hours
Time management: Plan
your study schedule for all
classes
Main
Takeaways
Most 
physics
jobs require a
12+ years
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Come in prepared on day 1
Come early on 1
st
 lab day
Read book 
& watch lectures
Start 
homework
 early
Avoid excessive reliance on
solutions
 
Get a good 2-6 person study
group (no flakes)
Go to office hours
Time management: 
Plan
your study schedule for all
classes
Main
Takeaways
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  1. Physics & Astronomy at AHC Rob Jorstad STEM Week of Discovery August 9, 2023 1

  2. GOOD Yikes! GOOD Physics https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/physicists-and-astronomers.htm#tab-1 2

  3. If you want jobs in academia or research Courses in calculus, linear algebra, stats Computer science typically useful Get a Bachelor s degree (4 years) Get a Ph.D. (6 years, paid $25k + all school expenses) Often require 1 or more post-docs (2-6 years, paid $65k) That s 12-16 years before getting paid $150k What can you do with a Bachelor s degree? Technician or assistant in related fields Engineering Computer science Data Science K-12 Teaching Some government jobs Average starting at $60k but ranges wildly Out perform pre-meds on MCAT (source: APS, 2015) Out perform pre-law on LSAT (source: APS, 2015) Physics https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/physicists-and-astronomers.htm#tab-4 https://www.aps.org/careers/guidance/webinars/upload/Careers-Talk.pdf, salary info from multiple source including Zip Recruiter, UC Merced, APS, etc 3

  4. Important Qualities to be Successful in Physics & Astronomy Analytical skills Evaluate work (your own & other s) to avoid errors Communication skills Present to the public and write technical reports Critical-thinking skills Determine if results & conclusions are accurate using logic Interpersonal skills Collaborate and work well with team members & colleagues Math skills Use calculus, algebra, geometry, & other areas of math Problem-solving skills Observe & analyze carefully. For example, they may need to redesign their approach and find alternatives when an experiment of theory fails to produce the desired result. Self-discipline Stay motivated & focus on large data sets for long periods Physics 4 https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/physicists-and-astronomers.htm#tab-4

  5. Quotes from Quotes from Carnegie Mellon Students Carnegie Mellon Students Weekly study groups were most effective of all the support offered because it forced me to form a study routine and it allowed me to work closely with other students in small groups. Physics is incredibly intimidating and difficult. I used office hours and tutoring and built a strong bridge and was successful in the class. Physics is an infamously difficult course. I consistently needed help with the material. It is not impossible though. Brian Mridula Chemistry Rohan Math Electrical & Computer Engineering 5 https://www.cmu.edu/student-success/other-resources/fast-facts/succeed-in-physics.pdf

  6. Quotes from Quotes from Carnegie Mellon Students Carnegie Mellon Students Weekly study groups were most effective of all the support offered because it forced me to form a study routine and it allowed me to work closely with other students in small groups. Physics is incredibly intimidating and difficult. I used office hours and tutoring and built a strong bridge and was successful in the class. Physics is an infamously difficult course. I consistently needed help with the material. It is not impossible though. Brian Mridula Chemistry Rohan Math Electrical & Computer Engineering 6 https://www.cmu.edu/student-success/other-resources/fast-facts/succeed-in-physics.pdf

  7. Quotes from Quotes from Carnegie Mellon Students Carnegie Mellon Students Weekly study groups were most effective of all the support offered because it forced me to form a study routine and it allowed me to work closely with other students in small groups. Physics is incredibly intimidating and difficult. I used office hours and tutoring and built a strong bridge and was successful in the class. Physics is an infamously difficult course. I consistently needed help with the material. It is not impossible though. Brian Mridula Chemistry Rohan Math Electrical & Computer Engineering 7 https://www.cmu.edu/student-success/other-resources/fast-facts/succeed-in-physics.pdf

  8. Quotes from Quotes from Carnegie Mellon Students Carnegie Mellon Students Weekly study groups were most effective of all the support offered because it forced me to form a study routine and it allowed me to work closely with other students in small groups. Physics is incredibly intimidating and difficult. I used office hours and tutoring and built a strong bridge and was successful in the class. Physics is an infamously difficult course. I consistently needed help with the material. It is not impossible though. Brian Mridula Chemistry Rohan Math Electrical & Computer Engineering 8 https://www.cmu.edu/student-success/other-resources/fast-facts/succeed-in-physics.pdf

  9. I just want to pass! I just want to pass! Physics builds upon itself Put in time doing problems when the material is easy or you ll be behind when it gets difficult. Understand conceptually Formulas will only help if you understand how/when/why to apply them. Thenreach for the calculator BEFORE class Read or watch lecture vids and have materials ready. With some knowledge base, more will stick from lecture. DURING class Sit front & center for best viewing angles (and forced engagement). Ask if something makes no sense (it happens daily). AFTER class Review your notes to see if you actually understand/remember. Practice until you puke and then practice some more. Talk about things with others (other students, tutors, instructor) From Carnegie Mellon https://www.cmu.edu/student-success/other-resources/fast- facts/succeed-in-physics.pdf 9

  10. The Curve of Forgetting The Curve of Forgetting % of Knowledge retained Time req d to get back to 100% understanding Days after learning material in lecture 10 10 From U Waterloo https://uwaterloo.ca/campus-wellness/curve-forgetting

  11. The Curve of Forgetting The Curve of Forgetting You forget if you don t practice. It is more fun & efficient to practice with a group When you explain to others, you understand more. When you are forced to articulate a question, you learn more. Why have a study group? 11 11 From U Waterloo https://uwaterloo.ca/campus-wellness/curve-forgetting

  12. Come in prepared on day 1 Come early on 1st lab day Read book & watch lectures Start homework early Avoid excessive reliance on solutions Get a good 2-6 person study group (no flakes) Go to office hours Time management: Plan your study schedule for all classes Main Takeaways Most physics jobs require a 12+ years 12

  13. Come in prepared on day 1 Come early on 1st lab day Read book & watch lectures Start homework early Avoid excessive reliance on solutions Get a good 2-6 person study group (no flakes) Go to office hours Time management: Plan your study schedule for all classes Main Takeaways 13

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